What if Sony had released Playstation 3 without a Blu-Ray Player

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disolitude said:

alpha_dk said:
I don't know why people are assuming HD-DVD would win. All it would have done would be to force more competition in the standalone realm; lower prices, more features and competition, and the formats battling on their own merits. Is everyone who is saying Blu-Ray would have lost also saying that Blu-Ray was worse than HD-DVD? Because even HD-DVD was too expensive for the mainstream at that point, so it would still have been a battle over the technophiles, which I am not so confident HD-DVD would have won...

HDDVD would have won because...
- HD DVD sold much more standalone player than bluray once you subtract PS3.
- HD DVD had both the DVD and HD DVD copy on one disk so customers could have gotten the HD DVD copy even if they had only the DVD player
- HD DVD were cheaper to make as they are the same size as DVDs and the manufacturers didn't have to change the size of the machines used to press the damn things
- Finally, players and movies wee slightly cheaper on HDDVD.

1.  Some of those PS3 sales were to people who would have bought Blu-ray players if it wasn't in the PS3. 
2.  With HD DVD costing much more?  No, people would just buy the regular DVD. 
3.  Blu-ray discs are also the same size
4.  HD DVD had a head start, which is a lot of why they were cheaper.  The big price differences were after it started losing; price slashing began, which assumes that it was losing so you can't count that as a reason it would win. 

To answer the topic:  PS3 in second place and turning profit at a lower price; possibly FFXIII exclusive; Blu-ray still fighting HD DVD and somewhat probably winning slowly.