VGC Poll: Abortion

[elprincipe]

akuma587 said:

elprincipe said:

akuma587 said:

You can make the same argument about a lot of things.  What if I am a pacifist and don't want to pay the government taxes to wage war?  Can I just refuse to do so?  No, I can't, because the government gives a shit about everybody, not just what I want.

What if I am upset that black people are coming into my restaurant and I don't want them to be there?  The government protects the greater interest rather than my interest.

What if I think alcohol is completlely immoral and should be outlawed?  The government protects the greater interest rather than my interest.

What if I think abortion is murder?  You get my drift.  The government recognizes a greater interest that needs to be protected because there is a reasonable basis for allowing abortion to protect people's rights.

Because you don't understand that is like saying you don't understand why the government doesn't allow people to discriminate against people.  I am not implying that those two things are necessarily of equal weight, but just because you think something is immoral doesn't mean the government or society has to agree with you.

 

None of the things you describe involves a human life, except for repeating what I said.  You fail.  The government's number one job is to ensure our right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.  Life is listed first for a very good reason, because the others can't follow unless you have life.  Your analogy is very poor.

 

Since when did war not involve human life?

I'm not getting drug into another argument as I have had plenty in this thread, but suffice it to say you haven't convinced anyone except yourself.

 

You mean I haven't convinced you (and I'm sure some others who rationalize their permissive attitude toward baby-killing).  You can't speak for others.  Which is not surprising in the least.  But your strawman argument does nothing for the debate.  It's like me saying you are anti-choice for not allowing the baby a choice.  It just ignores your view completely, even if it comports with my view.  Next you'll say that I only have such a position because I'm a religious fanatic or something.  Oh dear, we do go in circles, don't we?