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naznatips said:
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Bioshock gets a better score strictly because it is a new game all together, take MP1 for example compared to Bioshock.

Very good point, and a good reason why Metroid#1 will be in the top 10 - but MP3 won't.

You sort of wonder how "fair" that is - a sequel could be a lot better (improvements), yet still be marked harsher.

Now if only MP1/MP2 got remade for the Wii...

 

 


I think it is completely fair to include it being a sequel in the equation. If the sequel brings nothing new to the table then it deserves to get dinged. Bioshock scored so well because it was great on so many levels -- graphics, art design, innovation, atmosphere, presentation, controls, etc. etc. etc. MP3 seems to be enough of a departure from MP1 and MP2 (at least from the little bit I've seen and played) that it stands on it's own two feet just fine.


Well, I agree Bioshock is a great game, but I take issue with it getting 10s. It's not perfect. There are certainly flaws. The glaring ones are: repetitive enemies, too easy, vita chambers, and a game breaking bug that can completely stop you from advancing. These might be relaitvely small complaints considering how amazing the rest of the game is, but they are complaints nonetheless. Unless you can find absolutely NOTHING to complain about, the game does not deserve a 10.


Im just curious you think metroid deserves a 10? What i mean by that is what major flaws do you see in it, i know bioshock had

Lack of enemies, sometimes the same types got a little old, still really fun but the more you played it slowly went a little down

To easy with Chambers

few other minor things

And i agree with you no game actually in history deserves a 10, but i agree with 10 scores because they give those scores in regognition of great games, they give it to games they want to stand out and people say "wow must be a great game" and thats why i sometimes agree with 10/10

No game is perfect, but if its on the lvl of bioshock, Z OoT, Sm64 etc, doesnt it deserve to be recognized?


No, of course I don't think it deserves a 10.  I would give MP3 a 9.5.  It has a few glaring issues of it's own: There is a completely pointless fetchquest near the end of the game.  I just got to this and I have to say it was really unnecessary.  The enemies become practically undefeatable without the use of Hyper Mode near the end of the game.  While I think that was a purposeful design decision, it frustrates me, as in generaly I think Hyper Mode is a bit too much of a crutch.  

Those are my only issues so far.  I still have about 4 hours of gameplay left before I finish the game, but it doesn't deserve a 10, and neither does any game that you can find issues with.  Yes, it should be recognized, but anything over a 9 is enough to recognize the game as oustanding.  10s are thrown around like candy these days.  That frustrates me.


Again i agree, but alot of games get over a 9 nowadays, look at what gamespot gave that wario game a 9.1 or something.

9's are thrown around more then 10s are, and again i just believe in 10s if the game is just fantastic and deserves to be recognized

The only way they can fix this is just to be harsher on games, make it so games that are great, but nothing fantastic new, or blows you away, get a high 8 to 9, not a 9.7 etc. because they then the games that are better, have to obtain a 10 to be regonized



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