Hyruken said:
johnsobas said:
Hyruken said:
darthdevidem01 said:
@hyruken
eww what the hell is wrong with japan |
Japan is very different from the rest of the world right now. If you look at this weeks top 20 you see 11 of those games are on handhelds. If we look at the american numbers we see only 5 games in the top 20 are on handhelds. If you look closer you can see that every one of those handheld games are almost 2 years old. Then if you look in this weeks numbers there are 6 Wii games. Meaning 17 of the top 20 games are either on a handheld or on a Wii in Japan. Which leaves just 3 game places left for the HD consoles of which the PS3 took at 3,5 and 20. Where as again if you look at the american numbers last week you see 5 handheld games, 1 on PS2, 6 Wii games. leaving 8 HD games to fill 50% of the spots. 7 of those games are on 360 and 1 is on PS3.
Basically meaning that Japan and the west are going in different directions. The west has adopted the HD era and it is reflected in its charts, 8 of the 20 games are HD console games, 40%. Where as in Japan it amounts to just 3 of the 20 games which is just 15%.
Now the question then becomes why has Japan not taken to the HD era at the same rate as the west? Well many reason, for one Japan is one of if not thee highest cost of living country in the world, add to that the Yen is very strong at the momment. Add on top of that recession and a cultural people who save at recession times would indicate that right now people don't think its the right price at this point to buy into the HD era.
So my view is Japan is unsure if to buy into the HD era right now and are holding off until they get some more incentives i.e big title games,cheaper consoles etc.. Until then i would expect the Japanese trend to continue to decline in hardware sales while continue to buy games that at least in handheld terms are quite old.
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here we go again with the everyone wants a HD system they just can't afford it argument. Japan is usually the first to adopt things regardless of the cost, they have much higher HD penetration than the west so obviously that's not the issue. Not only that but you do realize that 360 is cheaper than the wii right?
To me the answer is that in Japan consoles are dying, and that second place consoles have never had much success in Japan at all. The higher selling 2nd place console in Japan is just over 5 million consoles, that's not very good. History has shown us that the the west can support 2 or 3 consoles with huge sales, and europe is a quickly growing market. Japan has not shown it to us, they choose a console and stick with it while 2nd place just does OK.
Another thing is that when you're looking at 1 week like you did you're gonna get less HD console games because they are more front loaded.
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Its not an argument, it is based on consumer trends. For example you say "2nd place consoles have never had much success in Japan". That simply isn't true. If you look at the generations you see it isnt true. 3rd gen Famicom versus the master system. By 1984 it had sold over 2.5m units. Not bad for only being on sale a year. While the Master System had sold 1m, again not bad. Then in the 4th Gen you had the Snes and the Megadrive, while i do not know the numbers i know that the Snes won and the Megadrive sold enough to spawn some of the most recognised characters in the world let alone Japan i.e Sonic which makes me believe it was also succesful.
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Mark III/Master System sold around 1.5m in Japan, compared to Famicom which sold 19.35m. Mega Drive wasn't even the second place console, PC Engine was. Super Famicom: 17.17m, PC Engine: 5.84m, Mega Drive: 3.58m. Europe was Sega's biggest market by far in the 8-bit era, with NA & Europe being far bigger than Japan for them in the 16-bit era. Ironically Sega did have success with the Saturn in Japan (5.8m), but had to discontinue it due it's poor performance in the West. Conversely, PC Engine was successful for NEC in Japan, but never had much success in the West.
