| Onyxmeth said: I'm going to use this thread to reply to, because you were originally replying to me about mentioning the Wii, DS and PSP. It's contradictory for you to start a thread showing that RPGs cannot be sustained alone on the 360, show that they cannot be sustained alone on the PS3, and then throw a shit fit when people mention that there are three platforms that CAN sell RPGs, only for you to change your argument to fit that certain RPGs need to be HD so they can fulfill your personal needs. So which is it? Is this a sales thread or a fanboy thread? I made a good point that even multiplats may not be able to be successful. You come back with there being some need for RPGs to have HD graphics, which really has nothing to do with sales. If RPGs cannot sell well on HD consoles then that's not where they need to be. I find it hypocritical that you would bring up a ridiculous argument about those needs when you're sporting a Cloud Strife avatar. Also weren't you one of the ones bitching about Microsoft "stealing" FF XIII last Summer? This is all very obvious what this is. This is you missing the RPGs the 360 is getting, and hoping for some reassurance that others feel PS3 should be getting them. You don't even have the ability to stick with your own topic. Your ability to generate any rational thinking in regards to sales is piss poor.
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Firstly did I ever mention anything about Wii, DS, or PSP in this thread? NO? Yet I did mention PS3 and 360. Why is that? Maybe it is because these are the only systems out right now with the capability of what is seen as HD gaming. All other alternatives are not what this discussion is about yet some keep bringing up the Wii as if that changes the matter at hand. My thread never implies that PS3/360 JRPG sales trump the Wii's, far from it. Yet the Wii is not a direct competitor of the HD consoles. It cannot do many of the things they do, or at least not to their standard.
So are you saying that FFXIII is held in the same respect as Jeanne D'Arc? That when these games are reviewed the reviewer will mark down Jeanne D'Arc for not having the same level of graphics? No, because that is crazy talk. The PSP can't generate PS3/360 capabilities so it should not be compared with such games, thats not fair. THe Wii is no different. The Wii is working on PS2 1.5 tech. When a game does not look as graphically pleasing on the Wii we do not hold it against it as we do a PS3/360 game. That means we also cannot hold the fact that Wii JRPGs have sold better then the HD ones.
And yes I was one of those guys "bitching" about FFXIII's betrayal. What does that or the fact that I have a FFVII avatar have to do with anything? Does it change the validity of my opinion? NO. FFXIII was being boasted as "going to use all of the PS3's power" etc. This was not intitiated by the fans, but by the developers. They said they were doing that. It is virtually impossible to to create a game on PS3 that uses a 50gb disc, full Cell potential, and of the highest graphical quality, that can also be done on the 360. IMPOSSIBLE! SE said that the games will be IDENTICAL. 360 cannot replicate 50gb of storage, that means they must be making the PS3 version replicate the 360's storage capacity instead. This alone means that SE LIED about what was being put into the PS3 version, in return, the game is not what they promised it would be. Multiplats prove one thing, that they could have done better with the PS3 version. THis is my personal take on the matter, and I made a point of not including that into my claim. I only brought this up because you took it there.
SUPPOSEDLY multiplatform is the way to go this gen. I personally do not believe it but whatever. I think MP is a fad that needs to die. Yet I am told I am wrong for thinking this. So when I developed this thread I take in account. If FFXIII, one of the best selling JRPG series, found the need to be MP, why haven't much smaller and less visible JRPGs found the need to do so as well. MS SUPPOSEDLY does not moneyhat these companies, so that means no extra incentive to go there. 360 lacks the JRPG fanbase to be of any use to a JRPG developer. Why are these comapanies ONLY putting certain games on THAT system. Look at The Last Remnant, the shining example of this flip floppy belief. The game is MP......yet it came out on 360 first. FFXIII, a game that was previously exclusive to PS3 turned MP, and it has to come out at the same time as it's 360 counterpart(o yes, it is true. SE can lie all they want about it but this game should be coming out in Q409)?!?! WTF?
One or more of these SUPPOSED truths is not.....but you didn't hear that from me.
The only thing flip flopping is the MP argument and that is not my doing.


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