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dib8rman said:
@jammy2211

The point of the post wasn't to use reffered numbers but rather an example of what is understood and the logic behind it. You can disagree with it or not, but the point is that as long as M&S has sold and equal ammount of units as MGS4 that MGS4 will not over lap it in profit, but at the same time M&S will not over lap MGS4 in revenue. That's all.

There's nothing to debate here, I'm not speaking facts I'm explaining a generalization. As with all generalizations though they don't apply to every case. Also your assuming I'm not factoring marketing, shipping, production, R&D and all the other niceties but I am, the quantities I used are just figments of my imagination, I could very well have said: "MGS4 would need 7 units sold to break even thus..." But for familiarity I used numbers that could be close to the actual numbers and if they are, then it still wouldn't augment in anyway my point.

Now you want to say that M&S is a 1st party title, I had a nice talk with another guy who thought the same thing, almost a year ago; I'll say this, before Mario and Sonic could be published Sega had to license the IP's of Nintendo and for that alone this game is a 3rd party title.

Unless you want to say Sega didn't request Nintendo license the use of them - in which case either your misinformed or your lying. All Nintendo did was supervise, the game was designed by Sega Sports and Sega Japan. In Japan and Japan alone was this game published by Nintendo, you seem to not want to mention this.

 Okay I'll rephrase what I meant regarding M&S, although it 'is' a third party game, it's never going to be a suitable example for any third party to use as a benchmark for potential markets, where to focus developement or that there is a potential market for them to exploit. For a third party looking at Wii sales and deciding where to go next on the console, it's going to be treated as yet another of the Nintendo games dominating the top of the list. Whether it technically is or isn't doesn't matter.

 As for the M&S vs MGS4 thing, I don't think we're in a position to say whether or not one was more profitable. We don't know the developement costs of either, the marketing budgets, how much profit per unit they made, how much Sony helped Konami in paying for the thing and how much SEGA were giving to Nintendo and the Olympics commitee to use their licenses. Without solid figures it's all just guesswork, and doesn't really have any relevence to the majority of PS360 or Wii developement.

Anywho, it's 10 to 3 here now so I'm going to be off the bed soon. If I don't reply I'll be sure to check up on this thread in the morning, I may have another 5 minutes in me though.