[Blog Article] Is Sony too artsy for its own good?

[vlad321]

windbane said:

 

 

 

 

The_vagabond7 said:

windbane said:

The_vagabond7 said:

windbane said:

The_vagabond7 said:
There are a billion and one games with level editors many much easier to use than LBPs, and with much greater potential. I wouldn't even know where to start a list. Morrowind had huge level editing tools, Starcraft had people making RPGs, Tower defense games, action quests, on and on, and it was an RTS with editing tools and Battlenet to share everything. I've said time and time again, LBP big innovation was that it was marketed to hell and back.

Anybody that thinks LBP did something revolutionary has never been a PC gamer, or they have been and are just wearing Sony goggles. It's marketed well but it didn't do anything that hasn't been done a hundred times before, just marketed well. And doing something pretty good that's been done many many times before doesn't count as innovation. If it is then suddenly there are a hell of alot of super innovative games.

 

I played Starcraft for 1000s of hours. You couldn't make a platformer on it. Also, sharing games was mainly done by just making a game with a bunch of capital letters in it.

Edit: Also, Starcraft had replays, but that doesn't mean that Halo 3 having replays (and Skate) isn't innovative, because what other FPS has it? For that matter, not many games have it at all.

And I've yet to see an RPG or top down exploration based action game in LBP, so what's your point?

 

 

They are different experiences and credit should be given where credit is due. Just because a game has concepts that have been used before in different games doesn't mean the implementation and particular execution isn't innovative and to be praised.

Edit: Also, you couldn't share pieces of a level in Starcraft like you can in LBP. You can even use those pieces as a prize in your level.

nnovative
adjective
1.	ahead of the times; "the advanced teaching methods"; "had advanced views on the subject"; "a forward-looking corporation"; "is British industry innovative enough?" [syn: advanced]
2.	being or producing something like nothing done or experienced or created before; "stylistically innovative works"; "innovative members of the artistic community"; "a mind so innovational, so original"

 

So how are you defining innovative exactly?

 

 

 

in⋅no⋅va⋅tion

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–noun

1.	something new or different introduced: numerous innovations in the high-school curriculum.

2.	the act of innovating; introduction of new things or methods.

 

What game has a level editor for platformers that lets you share bit and pieces of your creations with others and share them with a youtube system?  Please inform me why you are trying to bring down LBP as not innovative.

 

Because it's not? Spore did the EXACT same thing. It's system of sharing was even announced before LBP was probably being designed.... Also level editors? Please... Excitebike and Battle City had that back in the 80s.