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theprof00 said:
dharh said:

If you take MMO's out of the picture, PC gaming has been stagnating or drifting downwards. Many of the big PC games are also found on HD consoles now. Whats left are the low budget games, mini-games, etc. Sure that part of the PC game market might drift towards the Wii, but its the HD consoles which left the hole wide enough in the first place.

This is what I love. Whenever I talk about sales with a wii supporter it's always "if you exclude this" or "if you take that out of the equation".

I once responded to some dolt who said gaming was losing popularity and market by saying that gaming has been growing tremendously every year. He said that as a way of saying that the Wii was needed to stimulate the failing market. He then said, "well if you take the wii and the ds out of the sales, then gaming is actually falling 9%". What a stupid argument. You say that it is the wii that is saving the market and then include the ds which not many people actually have a problem with. Lots of people, even hardcorez like myself, love the ds and what it does for the industry. The Wii on the other hand, just doesn't have the same advantages as the ds, in terms of games, portability, price and so on.

Why do you do this? The "us vs them" mentality is completely unnecessary. All it does is tick others off. If you check the guy's profile, he's got more PS3 games than anything (only 4 Wii games)... so did you throw him in with the "Wii supporters" just because you disliked his argument?


Also, I've noticed how many support the DS, yet look down on the Wii. Why is this the case? The idea behind both platforms is the same - less focus on graphics, new control scheme. They released far more "casual" games on the DS than the Wii. Look at the games they published in the first two years (from wiki, removed JPN only games):


See what I mean? Their DS releases were completely loaded with "casual" titles, far more than the Wii's. The reason people don't care (now) is obvious - the third party support. The Japanese third parties are what makes the DS such a great system.

Blaming Nintendo for "closing the market" on you is silly. The real problem lies with the third parties. They didn't take the console seriously, which is why the situation is as it is. Now that some time has passed since the Wii was shown to be the clear winner, things are slowly improving.