Discussion: Terrorism, Israel, Hamas, etc

[vlad321]

Comrade Tovya said:

vlad321 said:

Comrade Tovya said:

vlad321 said:

 

Oh yes, shooting rockets at civilian centers and all that... And with all their amazing efforts of driving them off into the sea and bombarding houses and what not they only managed to kill 3 Isreali citizens... Damn... let's go kill a 1000 in return!

 

Ok Vlad, so it's safe for me to assume that you are furious with Hamas for purposely using the civilians as human shields? Because if you are mad about that, then you and I aren't so different. I just want to clarify if whether or not we are both disgusted with Hamas doing such disgusting things of course... I know I am... are you?

 

 

Oh yes, I'm thoroughly disgusted at Hamas treating their own the way they are. However, I'm also furious with Israel for being so childish in their strategies. It's as if we're back in the pre-historic era, they killed 2 of ours we'll kill all of them, even if only a small percentage of them actually hurt us, and are willing to continue to hurt us. To me, what Israel is doing is also absolutely inexcusable.

 

Ok, ok, we'll get to that in just a moment... work with here just for a moment.

Honest assessment here for just a moment, let's just forget about picking sides just for a sec.

Do we also agree that the only reason Israel is sending ground troops in at all is to limit civilian deaths as much as possible? I mean, according to you, the Israelis just want to kill civilians (you know, eye-for-an-eye as you stated), so wouldn't it just be easier to not send ground troops in at all and just drop bombs from the sky alone..? If not to spare civilians lives, there is no other purpose for risking the lives of Jewish soldiers and commit them to urban warfare.

So my next question for you is, do we agree that the logical reason for Israeli ground troops is to spare civilian lives? (seriously, if I am wrong, please tell me another good reason for using ground troops?) Would it not simply be easier just to bomb Gaza into the stoneage and risk zero troops? Afterall, the Israelis have bunker-buster bombs, they can blow out tunnels 100 feet deep or more from the air, so what is the purpose of ground troops if not to spare civilian lives?

 

 

Oh yes, but then you get reports like the one I gave a few posts above and it just shows that Israel is not doing everything that could be done. Notice that Israel is not allowing international journalists in there.

Edit: Quick relink to spare you some time: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7828536.stm