Nintendo fans calling for the downfall of hardcore gaming, why?

[DarkNight_DS]

Outcast said:

Whenever I see a Nintendo fan tell us HD gamers that hardcore gaming is going the way of the dodo, we should all quit or jump off a cliff, I take a look at their gaming collection and, suprise suprise, it's fall of hardcore games. This has happened every time. Never has a rea casual gamer told me that hardcore gaming should die. It's a selfish thing to do really, casual gamers couldn't care less what we play.

So, why are hardcore gamers telling hardcore gamers that we are dieing out? Surely not, right? Ask a Nintendo fan what his top 5 games he/she has ever played and they will reply with some combination of Zelda/Mario - hardcore franchises. You see, this is all getting a bit too much for me to understand at this point.

 Now, I've played a few casual games on my Wii. Wii Sports and Play are a blast for about 10 minutes. They're great for short bursts of gameplay. So why aren't these games on Nintendo fans best ever games lists? Because they're not. Far from it. They have no depth, no point beyond a few minutes of fun with your friends and family. This is what casual gaming is and no matter how many times Nintendo fans may pretend they want it, deep down they don't.

There are far more casual gamers with a Wii than hardcore gamers. Nintendo doesn't have or want to cater for you specifically any more. The new Zelda will not be anything like OOT, WW or TP. For better or worse, Nintendo will stop aiming any of their games at hardcore players.

So, ask yourself this Nintendo fans, how much did you enjoy Wii Music? Did you enjoy it enough for Zelda and EVERY other Nintendo franchise you love to be on the same intellectual level? Because this is what you're all claiming. I suggest you think about it.

If Hardcore means shooter games...  been there and done that... consoles offer less then PC games when it comes to that type of game.  I consider Zelda and Mario to be fun games that most anyone enjoys. 

I'm a little confused this gen as to why Sony left it's roots to try and become a PC game clone.  In the past, Sony offered games for most everyone.  Shooters were only a small portion of the overall offering.  I prefer the old Sony and feel that the complaints that many have directed at Nintendo could be most directed at Sony for changing it's direction.

Games are meant to be fun.  If you enjoy one type of game over another.  So be it.  If you are like me though you'll probably enjoy most every type of game. 

A hardcore game use to mean side scrolling shooter that kept throwing more and more stuff at you or Mega Man when I was a kid.  Not sure why gimped First person shooting games are "da hardcore" these days when they mostly consist of the exact same game I played back in the mid 90's on a 486 DLC40 with crappier controls.  Maybe you are da hardcore if you remember to press "X" when the game says "PRESS X".  I'm confused these days ;)