Swoosh2000 said:
bbsin said:
Swoosh2000 said:
bbsin said:
scottie said: You guys honestly believe that the Wii is selling for any reason other than it having the game lineup that most gamers prefer
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yeah.. it's called price. you'd have to be pretty ignorant to ignore it.
The Wii was by far the cheapest console upon release, which in turn helped it gain steam/momentum and popularity.
bottom line is that it takes 3 things to sell a system.
1. Pricing
2. Marketing
3. Software lineup.
Unfortunatly for Sony, they are JUST starting to get number 3 (and perhaps number 2) down.
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Problem is Nintendo threw everyone a curve ball by changing the playing field.
Sony is competing against Microsoft, but Microsoft is a pretty fierce contender. They match Sony almost feature for feature, pay companies for exclusives, using Sony's old tactics against them, and have been very successful in gaining support among the hardcore gaming and taking that away from Sony.
Price is a factor, but it's only one. The GameCube was cheaper than the other two and it had some good games, surely that should have at least made it competitive?
It was easier for Sony back in the days when Nintendo and Sega would just make huge blunders and Sony could just swoop in and take marketshare unmolested. Times have changed.
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so you're basically summing up what I just said...
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Not really.
Sony would still be losing even if the PS3 was cheaper. Price only accounts for so much.
I think people also underestimate how much those 1-year headstarts helped the PSX and PS2. Having a full year to iron the kinks out, build up software and brand momentum, secure third party exclusives, etc. helped Sony tremendously in the past.
Put them on even footing with Nintendo or MS though ... and they shrink. Sony has to have large advantages for them to dominate.
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For some reason, I think you only read the first sentence I typed. I never said anything about price being the ONLY factor......But hypothetically, if the PS3 were the cheapest console upon launch, I'd bet that it would infact to the best selling console of this current gen... but as we all know, it can't be proven true or false so it really doesn't matter.
The gamecube was infact the cheapest console (i think), but it had crap marketing and a subpar software lineup compared to the PS2. Both of which was what I was implying in my first post you responded to.
As for the 1 year headstarts... they never existed as Sega always released a console before Sony.