right, jman8, and with the 60GB (really 55GB), that's sure a lot of games you can install elements for. Ninja Gaiden Sigma is going to offer a full install. I look forward to that. You can always uninstall a game and install it later, btw, if you use all 10 game installs or however many you have. Or, upgrade your HD using any existing SATA drive. Nice, huh?