Grooski said:
ohnsobas said:
Grooski said:
I think you're all being a bit harsh in regards to Nov/Dec sales being down YOY. Everyone knows the effect of a pricecut last year was huge and to compare around those numbers and say that the PS3 is struggling this year is a bit off. 800k units sold in any territory in a month is a good effort.
Time for some happy news for Sony fans:
- Sony looks likely to have won the 2nd calendar year on shipped numbers. They only need 4 mill total shipped. Official numbers had a gap of 1.5 mill at end Sept. If MS shipped 5.5 mill this quarter, Sony need 4mill. VGC has them at 3.7 sold. Should be more enough fluff in the channel to keep a half mill lead. Expect Sony to trumpet that in 2 weeks.
- YOY numbers look set to be well up in Europe and US. Down in Japan around 20%, but so is the Wii. Shhh MS fans, keep quiet about your increase because where else could it go?
- Sony has won the VGC HD war in 2 out of 3 territories this year in units sold - Japan and Others, even with data to come
W/E 05th Jan 2008 to 03rd Jan 2009:
| Console |
Wii |
PS3 |
X360 |
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Total
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26,408,660
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10,461,692
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11,341,607
|
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America
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12,230,473
|
3,922,378
|
5,537,230
|
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Japan
|
2,909,197
|
1,004,037
|
326,119
|
|
Total Others
|
11,268,990
|
5,535,277
|
5,478,258
|
- Sony look set to have beaten the sales forecasts of 10mill shipped in the fiscal year. If they do around 4mill in Q3, they need around 2.3 mill shipped in Q4 to beat their own targets. Given they shipped 2.3 last year Q4 2007, this looks highly likely to have been exceeded by at least 500k.
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who cares about shipped numbers, sold numbers are what sets trends and shows consumer demand. I'm pretty sure PS3 didn't ship 4 million though, they shipped 20 million compared to 360's 28 million since launch.
The problem with all your YOY comparisons is that the sales were horrible last year until the price cut, nobody wanted to pay $600. "shhh keep quiet about your increase where else could it go?" kinda sums it up to me. It was tracking below the gamecube and around the dreamcast at first. It is STILL tracking almost the same as the gamecube in NA, and actually tracking noticably below the GC in Japan.
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Sony, MS and Nintendo care - shipped figures account for their revenue for that quarter. There is ALWAYS a direct correlation in measuring demand between the two figures, shipped and sold. Inventory managers adjust preorder figures according to sell through on existing inventory. Sell more, order more, get shipped more given no supply problems. There will always be more elasticity in shipped figures for a quarter, but over a years figures this becomes less and less. The opposite is true as well.
As for your GC and DC comments, given launches in late Sept 2001 for GC and late Nov 1998 for DC using similar timeframes:
VGChartz Hardware data for the period 15th Sep 2001 to 03rd Jan 2004:
| Console |
GC |
|
Total
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13,403,59
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VGChartz Hardware data for the period 07th Nov 1998 to 06th Jan 2001:
| Console |
DC |
|
Total
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1,908,837
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VGChartz Hardware data for the period 04th Nov 2006 to 03rd Jan 2009:
| Console |
PS3 |
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Total
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19,312,564
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