ok really about the camping thing it is not that hard to just go punish them for it... adapt to the play style and as far as the speed, you can have fox and everyone else as fast as sonic, that would be as ridiculous as sonic and mario olympic games...and the graphics... on the opening scene it even shows you the difference in link and mario, 2 notable ones, melee is in the past so just get over it.... it was a game were competitively if you wanted to have a shot you had maby 4 characters at most you had to use







