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superchunk said:
Final-Fan said:
1.  But now you seem to be defending an attitude of wanting to destroy the state of Israel, not denying it, as you did here:  "not recognizing its existance in maps, etc, is not the same thing as calling for its destruction".  It's a pretty fine line between wanting it to be gone, knowing that it will never leave unless it is destroyed, and calling for it to be destroyed. 

2.  I'd need to look into this more to be able to address the specific issues you mention.  But what do you mean by "still expanding"?  What new areas have been settled recently?

1. I have never called for the destruction of Israel. I do think that history shows it shouldn't exist, that the land should be 100% arab controlled, however, Israel is a soveign state and does exist. The millions of Jews living there deserve a peaceful home to prosper just as the Arabs do. I just recognize that Arabs would be shooting themselves in the foot to cede its existance on maps etc before Israel declares Palestine a state as well.

2. No *new* settlements, just expanding existing ones. i.e. taking more Palestinian land into already existing settlements.

1.  I never said you did. 

I don't see how that kind of silliness helps their position.  Why would it shoot them in the foot?  Why don't they just show maps with them having all the green line stuff you say they should have, instead of laying claim to the whole of Israel?  It's sheer madness to think they'll get any more than that, isn't it?  So there would be nothing lost by conceding it. 

2.  But they have physically increased in size, i.e. expanded the geographical area of the settlements? 



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