Hamas legalizes Crucifixion

[Final-Fan]

rocketpig said:

Final-Fan said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Final-Fan said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Final-Fan said:

Avinash_Tyagi said:

Final-Fan said:
(And a novelist writing flaws into a "heroic main character" isn't the same as a priest writing flaws into his savior.)

Depends on who the heoric character is.

Clearly you missed my point, which was that your comparison of someone making up bad things about one's fictional character and someone making up bad things about the savior of one's religion is ludicrous.  Harry Potter may be the savior of the wizarding world, but I seriously doubt J.K. Rowling worships him (despite the billions of dollars he's made her).

You misunderstood my point, just because one views him as a savior doesn't mean he's not ficitional and doesn't mean that saying bad things about him is anything special

Excuse me but WTF are you thinking?  Did Rock_on_2008 go around spreading negative misinformation about the PS3?

Hunh?  I'm afraid I don't follow, where did the PS3 come in?

Why do you think it's likely that an early Christian would make up stories about a savior who was executed in a very humiliating way?  Why not a more prestigious form of death?  Why would these people who you speculate fabricated the existence of Jesus Christ put in bad things about their savior?

Oh boy, that's an easy one and is one of the core differences to human life. It's basic psychology.

Common man wants someone greater than themselves. A self-sacrifice is fundamental to our very nature when we look at stories told since the beginning of man. Something for the "greater good". If it's humiliating, just the better. We're a pack animal. Pack animals look up to the "alpha" of the pack. Since we're also intelligent creatures, there is reasoning given beyond fighting and survival. So, unlike say a wolf pack, we idolize the noble idea of sacrificing yourself for the greater good of the pack.

Instead of fighting weather or a predator like an animal, our "enemy" was the establishment. In this case, it was the Roman Empire. Stories of Jesus sacrificing himself for the good of the pack is no different than any Jack London or Greek Mythology story you might read. It's a common thread ever since humanity started drawing on walls.

Yeah, I can see that angle.  You haven't explained why it would be good to be a "bad" death like crucifixion, but that can be explained by reasoning that the more he suffered, the more awesome he was to take it for us.  Doesn't make a great deal of logical sense but plenty of mythical sense.

getting back to A_T:  what exactly is your alternate theory here?  How did his existence get manufactured in such a brief time?  Why didn't anyone say anything like "wait a second that never happened, there was no such Jesus"?