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Final is onto something tho. If only Sony would put out a model with no mem card reader or wi-fi and like a 20-40gb HD for $399 sales would really take off. The HD size matters very little. I mean an 80GB brand name HDD is $55 at newegg.com.

They need to copy MS and have 1 model that is at a considerably lower price point. The difference will be that Sony's bottom price point model is still FULLY functional. They still need to include a HD, just a small one and leave out the extras like wifi and memcard reader.