HappySqurriel said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
| nordlead said:
Also, Nintendo may have made a lot of money on cheap ($$$) games, but Only Wii Play, Wii Sports, and Mario Party 8 really come to mind as "cheap" (quality) games from Nintendo. 2 out of 3 of those came bundled with hardware, and the last is an established franchise. Wii Fit (excelent hardware, big risk, lots of potential with the BB), Wii Music (lots of musical effort put into this), and Mario Kart Wii (best online experience) may have been $$$ cheap, but are definitely not cheap quality.
@other post
baiting people into breaking the rules of conduct may not be spelled out in the rules, but to then go and complain about getting the reaction you were asking for is just childish.
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I think that is what many 3rd parties have learned. Shovelware is nothing new on any system but it somehow seems more acceptable to people for it to be on the Wii. Some accept it because "the Wii is winning, it's understandable" while others accept it because "the Wii isn't as powerful as the 360/PS3" and even still others accept it because they don't even know what it is. Regardless, churning out cheap games for large profit on the Wii has become the standard for several companies. It's only logical when you have the choice of a $100k investment versus a $300k investment with approximately the same ROI that you would go with the former.
I suppose the problem is less with Nintendo and more with the uneducated consumer who will (IMO) be getting harmed the most by companies who do this.
As for baiting, I didn't see it that way when I made the post and I still do not. It was a slant, but not bait. Even if you believe it was baiting, two wrongs do not make a right.
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Shovelware became an unusually large problem for the Wii because its hardware sales and consumer interest in software meant that most retailers wanted to have a full display case (or two) and few reputable third party publishers had games. As time goes on, and more decent third party games are released, the number of shovelware games crowding shelves is being decreased.
The problem is neither with Nintendo nor with the consumer, it was caused by third party publishers betting everything on the HD consoles; and (like most gamblers) they're facing the consequences of their decisions, and many may go bankrupt because of it.
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I am focusing purely on the Wii at the moment. I believe looking at prospects on HD consoles is out of that scope, unless you're saying that these cheap cashins and shovelware are the result of 3rd parties trying to recoup losses on HD consoles.