Is the PS3 selling badly? Why do you think it is/isn't?

[FinalEvangelion]

URNotE said:

Final-Fan said:

WiteoutKing said:

URNotE said:

WiteoutKing said:
The Wii is far outperforming its predecessor.
The 360 is performing as well as its predecessor, if not better.

Can the PS3 make that claim?

That is why the PS3 is failing right now. Plain and simple.

wait a minute so thats everyones logic just because its not outperforming the ps2 hahahahahahahahahahaha thats laughable.. VERY LAUGHABLE its hard for any console to match that.. if anything those are biased comments let alone unjust comments.. the ps2 set the standard for the last generation so the 360 ps3 and wii should be looking to go above that standard... only one that is on route to do it is the wii... the fact that you and everyone else would single out the ps3 not meeting that standard is biased and unjust in my opinion.... so i guess sega should hope to equal dreamcast numbers according to you if they come out with another console... come on yal give it a rest with the BS...

In this industry, success is measured on three things:

1. Profit. The PS3 is not pulling profit and honestly can't expect to for a few years. Billions of dollars will be lost by Sony in this venture.

2. Hardware units sold. At the rate it's going, the PS3 would be lucky to break 35 million over the course of its life. It's at under 5 million in 9 months.

3. Living up to the hype and/or exceeding it. The PS3 was hyped. A lot. And as the successor to the PS2 it should have sold plenty. It doesn't have to sell MORE per sé. But being in the general ballpark is a must. The PS3 failed to do that.

 

The PS3 has failed on all three fronts.

1. Same as 360 if not better

2. Better than 360 was 9 months from launch

3. No argument that the PS3 was supposed to sell like PS2 and failed. But allow me to quote myself from this very thread: "There is no way the PS3 can take first this generation. However, it can be a successful, profitable console, in a solid second place, and a good springboard for the PS4. If that happens, the PS3 will have been a success. It is not wildly unlikely that it will do exactly that, which makes it at this time not a failure."

"Once again we come to "poor sales vs. PS2" YES THAT IS TRUE. And it will never, ever, have PS2 sales. However, as I have said repeatedly, that does not mean the PS3 cannot be successful judged by its own merits and faults. See previous posts."

Not as successful as the PS2, or as successful as it was supposed to be, but successful. You may disagree.

[edit: [edit2: This section, in which I stated a belief that the PS3 was selling as well as the PS2 did, has been debunked. I was using data that lacked European numbers, apparently.]]

In this industry, success is measured on three things:

1. Profit. The 360 is not pulling profit and honestly can't expect to for a few years. Billions of dollars will be lost by Microsoft because of hardware failure

2. Hardware units sold. At the rate it's going, the 360 would be lucky to break 35 million over the course of its life. It's at under 11 million in 22 months.

3. Living up to the hype and/or exceeding it. The 360 was hyped. A lot. And as the successor to the high powered xbox it should have sold plenty more. It doesn't have to sell MORE per sé. But being in the general ballpark is a must. The 360 failed to do that.

 

The 360 has failed on all three fronts.

 

Let's not forget that the 360 had no competitor at $200 cheaper at this point in it's life, while the PS3 has two competitors, and has been doing roughly the same (about 20k higher) as the 360.

 

The fact that the PS3 has now started selling better than the 360 worldwide given the situation makes me think that it will probably get second place.  For getting first place, it will probably have to wait until the PS4.  

 

The PS3 will be a slow riser to gain its momentum.  Seeing that PS3 sales haven't slowed much since the price cut, and in Japan it's holding after a major release, I'm having a bit more faith that it won't be 3rd place.