Microsoft says it will take PS3 sales away at Christmas

[Just_Ben]

Sqrl said:

 

I never said the core was a good deal, but we are talking about uninformed consumers and when they know they need to get a 360 for Billy and one is much cheaper..well I think we know which one they will buy.

Sorry, the current price difference between core and premium in the US is 70$? And you need a memory card? thats not that big of a price difference. AND you seem not to know kids. They tell their parents exactly what they want. Especialy in that age (14+). Don't think the box will be bought for many kids under that age, if you consider the games for it. And if so, parents will ask the clerk and he will tell them to buy the premium.

 

Sqrl said:

 

As for trying to translate my X-mas argument to right now, are you insane? How does my argument of people not wanting to spend all of their X-mas budget on one item translate to summer? There is a big difference between people spending this kind of cash on themselves and grandma/grandpa/mom/dad spending it at X-mas. Parents don't really buy there 23+ year old children consoles anymore so its parents buying for teens mostly.

And you think there will be no one, who will buy themselves a Christmas gift? Your argument is only true for the basic parent. But there are people who uses their Christmas bonus to buy themselves something they want!

Sqrl said:

 

As for the 360 last X-mas, I'm not sure why you got the idea that it was $400 last X-mas since the core was $299. I would consider $300 to be the upper limit of what most parents will spend at X-mas.

And how good sold the core? As far as i understood poorly if you compare it with the premium.

Sqrl said:

 

Ok lets keep this all in perspective now: I am not saying that neither console will sell this holiday, I am simply saying the price for the PS3 is still to high to see large numbers. The 360 on the other hand could see large numbers, but only on the back of the cheapest SKU available. So once again, yes they will sell, and they will see normal holiday boosts. But no they will not see spectacular blowout sales.

My argument is that, the PS3 hadn't had a Christmas in Europe, yet. And that people use their chrisms bonus for themselves. It is the only time of the year most people can afford to buy such a high price article. And the PS3 has at least some games by the time, and the brand name of the PS3 is much stronger than that of the 360. I know, a lot of people say, amazon don't count. But looking at amazon.de the price drop of the 360 seems to didn't help that much in Germany. Price is only one of a lot of things.

Sqrl said:

 

Edit: Let me just add that not only do I think price still matters at X-mas, I think it actually matters more but in a different way. During X-mas the price matters not for a decision of "Do I buy?" but for the decision of "Which do I buy?". This goes hand in hand with what MS is saying here actually as you will see potential PS3 buyers scoff at the price and get a 360/Wii and potential 360 buyers could very well do the same picking up a Wii...but I think it will be a much much more significant PS3 -> 360/Wii trend than 360 -> Wii trend. Once again, for the rabid fanboys I feel I have to point out that I am not saying this is going to happen in all or even most cases, but it WILL happen and it will happen enough to make a differnce in WW sales this Holiday.

So know I'm not called a Nintendo fanboy, I'm called a Sony fanboy? Nice! I'm still saying the PS3 will win in Europe against the 360 this holiday season, if there is a price drop before than by 2:1 (Nov+Dec).

I will take know a wild guess. You are coming from America? The way i see it, the discussion between those who are behind the 360 and those who are behind the PS3 is also mainly a discussion between Americans and Europeans here on the board. So lets just take a step back and think about that. This pattern should tell everybody something. The brand name PS is still strong in Europe. So strong that many think the PS3 can pull it. So why not say, the 360 will win in US and the PS3 in Europe?

And please, don't call me a fanboy, I'm laying down an argument.

And by the way, quoting sucks in this forum!