Microsoft is helping Nintendo to win this war???

[ChichiriMuyo]

starcraft said:

ChichiriMuyo said:
Well, you are welcome to disagree, but I think you have the message just slightly off. I think Sony's mistakes are certainly as beneficial to Nintendo as their own good choices. I just don't think MS's choices, good or bad, are as influencial in who is going to win this generation as the first two factors. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

Let's be honest here, it's Sony's mistakes that really even allow MS the opportunity to damage them to begin with. It doesn't matter how much MS bites at Sony's ankles, it's still a two horse race and those two horses are the ones that decide how this ends. Until MS finds a way to not be outsold by a more expensive machine they just aren't a big enough force here. Really, if you've got to undercut the competitor by 30%, spend millions on exclussives, and put out several AAA titles to the competiton's 0 and you still can't beat them by more than a small margin you've got troubles.

Really, MS's meddling could be what smacks Sony into shape thereby being a factor against Nintendo winning the genration. Gotta see how it plays out, but anyway I look at it I just can't see MS as being anything but a side factor in the grand scheme and a minor influence in the eventual winner.

 Blue Dragon has an almost 45% attach rate in Japan.  The console may have failed, but the game is doing absolutely fantastically on it.  

One, what in the hell does BD have to do with what you quoted?

Two, you're still working off of baseless assumptions.  BD has a 45% attach rate, that's nice.  Would it achieve that attach rate on any other system?  No way in hell.  Every other system has, or will have, games in the same genre that Japanese players wnat even more.  Also, just tracking the numbers will tell you that a very large number of 360 owners too the plunge simply for that game, which explains its high attach rates.  If there was any other game on the system that Japanese gamers cared about it wouldn't be anywhere near 45%.

Furthermore, what if they have reached the games full potential on that system?  For all we know, it would have sold only just as well on the PS3.  If 90% of the people that wanted it got a 360 for it, then it wouldn't be getting your praise.  In fact, it'd be treated like a joke if it sold that poorly on the PS3.  Hell, even if it somehow managed to maintain the same attach rate it would still just be at HALF a million, which is half of what was previously claimed as a possibility for the game.  Sure, that'd make it far and away the best seller on the PS3 at the moment and Sony would be happy to have that going for them, but then you still have to consider that the statement is made under the assumtion that the game can somehow get a 45% attach rate on a noticably more popular console.

So, in short, BD has done well ONLY when considering what system it is on, which is not the same thing as being able to do as well comparatively on another system.  There's simply no evidence that the game would have performed noticably better anywhere else.  Saying otherwise is simply asinine.  It's fine to suspect that the game would have done well, but to say it'd have been a blockbuster when there's nothing supporting that is nonsense.

Or, to paraphrase a number of posters on this site: Saying that something is "doing well considering..." is the same thing as saying it's doing poorly.