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kn said:
long thread reduced.
Allow me to make it crystal clear that I'm not speaking in terms of "quantity" -- I'm speaking in terms of QUALITY. Yes, there was a lot of shovelware on prior consoles. I will agree. This generation is proving to be different, though. The internet provides a place for people to sort through the hype and to get closer to the truth about the quality of games than ever before. If 3rd party Wii titles continue to be garbage (there are some good ones, of course) the Wii can expect to become primarily a 1st party supported system over the long term. Quality of the title counts -- not just graphics, but gameplay too. There are quite a few 3rd party titles that are rubbish in every way. I certainly hope to see some better 3rd party titles as I own a Wii and don't want to regret my purchase in the long run you can no way argue, at this point in video gaming history, that shovelware won't hurt the system.

I originally was going to start my last comment with: "Did you even read the thread?" I took it out because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, and be polite.

You are talking QUALITY. We are talking SALES. Sales discussions include things like numbers, it's a quantitative discussion. Quality is subjective, and critiques are most valued when coming from someone who knows what they are talking about, because they did some research. If someone doesn't read anything in the thread, than they shouldn't post.

You ignore the data of third party sales on Wii. This year: 8 million 3rd party titles in 8 months, 13 million on 360 in 8 months. Considering the smaller install base up until last week and the fact that this thread isn't about quality the elements of your argument is proven irrelavant, fictional, unrealistic and biased.

Hence:

Forum > Sales Discussion > wii's 3rd party...

God I hate that threads pop up on the front page with out a category.

EDIT:

@theShoe: The elements of gameplay changed with the entrance of true 3D rendering. N64 and PS1 were a big step in gameplay. PS2 was big with the standard 2 analog stick controller. (PS1 Dual Shock was added late in the gen.)

Plus, I didn't say graphics over gameplay, I said look at the top 50 and stated some observations.

Quoting me: "You still don't get it, mainstream consumers just don't care that much about graphics; they are playing Nintendogs, training games, Wii play, Wii Sports, party games, games with more classic=arcade like controls, music games, nostalgic games, or sports games. Look how many of those games fall into those categories. Look at the two top 50's for software for 07 so far (NA and JPN). JPN is all Wii or DS, and some PS2. 50% of software in NA is from the graphically inferior Nintendo Consoles. "



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.