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[vlad321]

Comrade Tovya said:

vlad321 said:

 

Yes, while it is considered human, it is not considered alive upon the moment of conception. That is where people are at a standstill and until it is decided when the fetus can actually be considered truly alive there is no reason for us to force opinions onto others.

 

But, using such a moral compass, you are implying that a mother has the right to force her opinion/desire upon the fetus, even though everyone agrees that the fetus MAY VERY WELL BE an individual being at the moment of conception.

Would it not make more sense to prevent abortions until we can be sure that the rights of both the mother and child are not being trampled upon?  The assertion that since we do not know when to define the fetus as a seperate being means that it has no rights is hyprocrisy.   It's exactly the same as me accusing you of theft of my property, and you being imprisoned without trial, and being told that you will not be released until YOU prove that you are innocent.

The very framework of our contitution provides the safety net that a court will decide your fate prior to your sentencing.  But in the courtroom of the abortion clinic, the baby is sentenced to his eternal fate prior to a decision being made as to what rights it has.  The whole assertion that a being has no rights because we cannot define it is cruel.  A final definition of the term individual being should be defined prior to carrying out its death sentence, and not after the fact... because after the fact is too late.

More importantly, as I stated prior, why does a fetus have the right not to be harmed but it doesn't have right to life?  Are they not one in the same?

First of all I don't know who everyone is because I don't consider something not alive as a being to begin with, and neither do most of the people I talk to about this, when it becomes alive then it becomes a being with human rights, as of right now we do not know when that is. Without this generalization of individual being most of your following arguments fall apart. As for why we don't protect it just to make sure, that argument goes both ways. Why should we go so far as to endanger the wellbeing, and sometimes the very life, of a woman for something that is no more alive than the skin cells you are leaving on your keyboard as you type?