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trestres said:
@Soriku: I know about that. I'm just saying that Nintendo is only making the GC ports and Wii Sports Resort for the Wii so far. They aren't really using much of their 1st/second party teams.

So far games we know that they are making are: Wii Sports Resort, the GC ports and Mario & Luigi 3. There's like 22 free teams, but we don't know if they are developing for the Wii, the DS, the Wii's successor or the DS successor. Nintendo doesn't like to hype their games or make reasonable time announcements. They want you to know about a game when it's on the shelves already.

Ans still, S&P 2 and Punch Out aren't second party. They are 3rd party games published by Nintendo. Nintendo doesn't have anything to do with the development of those games.

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There is no such thing as "a third party game published by Nintendo." Nintendo is a first party. They are only capable of publishing first party games. The ONLY REASON the term "second party" exists is as a slang term to describe games that are developed by a third party, and published by a first party. That is the definition of a second party game, and obviously S&P2 and Punch Out!! qualify.

Furthermore, of course Nintendo is involved in every game they outsource. It isn't like any developer can just walk up to Nintendo, and Nintendo will give them an IP and publish their game. Nintendo's software directors including Miyamoto probably have a lot of oversight and input.

You're also being a little dishonest about how many of Nintendo's teams are working on mystery projects. First of all, much of EAD reorganizes constantly depending on what's in development. The teams aren't set in stone, other than the seperate Tokyo team of course. Furthermore, even if they aren't "official," we know that Hal is working on Kirby, the Zelda team is working on Zelda, the Mario is working on a "core" game, Game Freak always work on Pokemon, Skip has been doing the Art Style games (GBA ports, oh noes!) for WiiWare, there's the newly announced WarioWare products, and I'd guess some of the half-dozen other games Nintendo announced at their TGS-concurrent conference are internal.



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