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Kantor said:
TWRoO said:
FPSrules said:
considering the fact that ps2 sold over 140 million compare to xbox's 28 million last gen, and sony is only behind overall 6 million copies they still have time, and more than enough consumers without either system to make a serious comeback.

the new xbox experience is higly overrated and you have to be a complete retard if you brought xbox just for that. the avatars are the exact same thing as the wii's mii's, if thats the case i guess nintendo should advertise their mii's, even though both look like shit

all sony needs to do is to release and advertise Playstation Home, that will sell consoles

First of all, the PS2 is at about 130 million, not 140 million (the Sony exec who stated it made a mistake)

Secondly, the Xbox just barely passed 25 million, so has not, and will not reach 28 million.

Thirdly, you seem to be insinuating that of the (130 + 25 = 155) 155 million XB/PS2 users last gen, all of them are going to move to PS360 this gen. This is clearly not what has been happening..... the vast majority of XB users have, or will move to X360, the PS2 users are split, but not evenly.... a few are clearly going to X360, and a few are going to the PS3... but most are moving to the Wii along with most GC users.

I also have to cringe at your odd statement that Home will somehow sell lots of PS3s, yet the equivalent for X360 won't... because that is the stupidest thing I have heard in a while.

 

Wow, wow, wow. Wait right there. The majority of PS2 owners haven't bought 7th gen consoles yet. They are waiting for the prices to go down.

The Wii's success lies in the fact that it appealed to people who had never touched a console before, who were new to gaming. Quite a few PS2 owners got impatient and went 360, but why would they go to the Wii when both the 360 and PS3 were already out? I know ONE PS2 owner who bought a Wii (which he got free), and several who went PS360. Literally, quite a few of my friends have both. I'm not so lucky :(

And Home is not going to sell consoles, neither is NXE. They are online systems. What Home may do, which NXE may not, is reveal that the PS3 has another feature on top of the 360, an online world. When compared, you have to admit that Home (when they finally decide to release it) is a lot better.

 

Well I didn't mean the majority of total owners, I meant the majority of last gen owners who have bought from this gen.

And I have said this before.... but the percentage of Wii owners that are actually totally new to gaming is actually quite small, like ~10%.  And some of those may have bought a console this gen anyway with the natural increase in users each gen. With the Wii userbase that is still quite a lot of users, but no where near even plurality and certainly not a majority.

The Wii userbase is very likely (give or take 5%) compromised like this.

(Last gen owners)
PS2 owners - 60%
GC owners - 28%
XB owners - 2%

(Last gen single console owners)
PS2 only - 50%
GC only - 20%
XB only - 0.5% (hardly any)

------ so about 20-25% were GC owners and mainly Nintendo fans, but some will also have had a PS2 as well as the GC wasn't very popular (so most of the discrepancy between PS2 total [60%] and PS2 only will be PS2 + GC owners)

The remaining 10% (50+20+0.5 = ~70% [took off 0.5 for ease of use] + ~10% multi-console owners, nearly all of which will have had a PS2, hence the 10% diff between PS2 only and PS2 total) makes up any new gamers along with a few who may have skipped gen 6 for some reason.

(n.b... the multi owners is quite high in this at 10%.... but early in the Wii's life is when most of last gens more avid gamers likely to own 2+ consoles will have bought it.... so that figure will decrease over time as the later adopters in gen 6 (who are less likely to have 2 consoles) feel the need to renew)


Edit. Also like it or not, most of the new gamers will be 7-20 year old girls.... not soccer moms or penta/hexa/hepta/octagenarians.