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bdbdbd said:
@Esa-Petteri: Your point was presented with no logic.

Show me a good minigame collection on PS3 or 360 and i judge it by the game (outside LBP). The point was, the games that have been put effort into, sell on all consoles. We have a number of titles on Wii, that aren't minigames and have sold in large numbers. There also aren't coming out many minigames anymore, could it be because of the "birdmen" that were after easy money and noticed that there aren't easy money to be made.

Wii Sports and Wii Fit are disruptive or blue ocean software, where the "minigame collection" meme doesn't really work. They aren't selling because they are minigames, they are selling despite being minigame collections.

The next big seller on Wii is a game with Tom Nook.

Now, what you did, was pick a number of minigames and dismiss everything important and basically everything outside minigames. Basically that's the thing Reggie was talking about. DS should give an implication to devs and publishers, what kind of strategy they should be using. The thing that pisses 3rd parties is, that if they play the strategy, it's helping Nintendo and if they don't, it's damaging themselves and helps Nintendo.

But, there's one valid reason, why 3rd parties don't want to "get" Wii, that remotedly relates to what Ail said, and that is 3rd parties wanting power from the 1st parties for themselves. The SNES/Megadrive era was best for 3rd parties, every other generation have been shit to them with 1st parties telling how and what to do. 3rd parties want the 1st parties to fight over the 3rd party support.

Sorry, I don't consider minigame collections good. But some people at vgc forums are saying that RRR is a good game. So,

 

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?&results=50&name=rayman%20raving%20rabbids&console=&keyword=&publisher=&genre=&order=Sales&boxart=Both&showdeleted=&region=All&alphasort=

 

Bringing that kind of game to wii is a smart idea, bringing it to 360 not. Guess which console will be getting RRR 3,4,5? ;) Anyway, of course there are other kind of games that have sold well on wii. But the top 3 selling nintendo games are minigame collections. You can use your "maelstrom" logic as much as you want, but that won't change the fact that those "birdmen" have made a lot of money with very little effort. Your blue ocean meme does not work.

 

Actually I just picked the top 10 selling wii third party games. It is not my fault that most of them are minigame collections.

Oh and by that ds-thing you meant that... third party devs should bring games like mario&sonic, cooking mama1/2,mysims,imagine:stuff,sonic rush on wii? I think they have done that. That kind of stuff sells on ds and yes, I ignored few square-enix rpg:s. They will come later on wii, of course. :)

Rift?