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November 10th charts last year had the sales at 138K to 79K for 360. Which is not that different from this year other then Sony has gone down a bit and 360 went up a bit.

I think that everyone should just relax. Sony has a very strong brand name, it can never be considered "out of it". But, I think it is safe to say, for this generation, that Sony will finish third in North America.