IGN 9.0 for Left4Dead unfair, would be 6.5

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Sqrl said:

masschamber said:

Sqrl said:

People who hate this game fall into at least one of five categories without fail, and typically they fall into more than one:

1) Never played it.
2) Only played the demo.
3) Never played above normal difficulty.
4) Terrible at shooters and got frustrated, thus its the game's fault (not them of course).
5) Was never ever to reach and/or beat a finale.

 

The folks I've met who don't fall into any of these categories, but still don't personally like the game, are at least able to recognize why others do like it and are also able to see why it is regarded so highly...even if its not their style of game.

 

Why release a demo if it isn't a gauge of the whole game, isn't that the point of a demo? I played it on normal and hard and didn't like either both alone and co-op

Should I have bought Too Human anyway even though I didn't like the demo? or what about army of 2, or lost planet, or any other game I've played a demo of, didn't like much or at all then paid full price anyway saying

So people can't dislike a game until they've beaten it, on the hardest difficulty, and they had to pay full price?

Frankly it seems there are more people that can't accept that some people just don't like Left4dead or think it is worth full price than people that think others aren't allowed to like it , when it is 20 dollars or so I might pick it up but the demo made the game out to me not to be worth the full price

Wow, defensive much? I made a statement that people who dislike the game fall into a few categories and you inferred things I never sayed or even implied from it. For instance I never said you were unjustified in forming a conclusion or that Valve or the demo were perfect incarnations of the game, or really anything of the sort. Just that those who didn't like the game had a common thread where they hadn't experienced the full game yet. Perhaps you should have waited to see if I felt Valve made a mistake in the structuring of their demo before assuming I would blindly defend it?

As for your personal anecdote, it provides further basis for my assertion.

Frankly it seems there are a lot of people who are angered that others don't have the same tastes as they do. So rather than moving on and playing something else they have to come back to a forum and trash the game. Honestly though that's fine, but you should justify your reasons for not liking the game by explaining which portions you disliked and why. Of course there is a fair chance that you might assume something erroneously since you've never finished a campaign.

And I must admit I find it odd that you would say "you have to beat the game to dislike it?!?" (paraphrasing). You say this as if completing a single campaign would be considered beating the game. In reality though, your first run through any given campaign is an hour or two of gameplay (if you play on a difficulty level that suits you). I would think that by any reasonable standard you should give a game 1 to 2 hours before rendering a verdict. And even then with how replayable each campaign is it makes the assertion of "you have to beat the game" all the more ridiculous. And frankly I'm not sure what purpose you have in using such deceptively embellished statement to begin with, I thought your angle was to paint me as the person being unreasonable but you betray that when you rely on such a tenuous statement..

In any case I never said people had to like it, I made an observation about those who do not like it. If you don't like the fact that you embody that observation then don't get angry with me. Go back and play the game on those higher difficulties and actually try one of the finales (hint: you can skip to it if you have the full game). Of course, this will only make a difference if you keep an open mind, and honestly the finale's are epic because of the struggle in getting to them and the way they accent the experience as a huge crescendo.

Of course you seem to have missinterpreted my motive and heading in my first post. The motive behind my statement was simple, I was very "blah" about the demo until I upped it to expert and the game got extremely fun for me. My heading has been to help others correct this mistake as well. In jumping to a conclusion about a simple statement you've made a number of assumptions about what kind of person I am and frankly you've made the assumption that I'm some sort of blind defender without logic or reason and I find that rather insulting. So if you'd like to know my logic and reasoning then you may simply ask me, but do not ever presume to know my position on a matter until I've given it.

 

I explained why I didn't like it in my first post, the 5 special enemies don't seem to be enough to keep the game interesting, and I found fighting the horde terribly dull,

You could be called defensive as well as you continue to return to forums to defend the game and you responded with a rather long tirade about how your opinion is impirial evidence of its greatness and how anyone disagreeing with you just further proves your point,

the biggest thing is you said that the just playing the demo wasn't enough to guage wanting the game you then proceed to go further down with the absurd defensive of Left 4 dead, now beating the game isn't good enough? it has to be played until it is enjoyed?

seriously Left4dead seems to have reached the same unreasonable level of defensiveness of games like littlebigplanet were anyone with a differing opinion is wrong and only proved further proof of how great it is