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[Final-Fan]

Kasz216 said:

Final-Fan said:

Worse =/= more racist. The degree of racism, it seems to me, depends on the degree to which racial hatred motivates the action in question, not just the amount of harm that is done. Even if you disagree, why did you ignore my obvious use of a different definition? You should have argued with my definition, not talked about the fact that greater harm to the individuals was done by internment, since I AGREED WITH THAT. It also seems to me that by your definition Hitler is countless times more racist than the KKK just because his murder campaign was that much more successful. 

What newspapers did FDR shut down?

And you're seriously overreaching to say that FDR was basically a Bush that got lucky.

P.S. You're withdrawing the point about the Holocaust? Or you just haven't finished your rebuttal?

[edit:  and no it fucking was not "practically slavery".  It was "wrongful imprisonment".  Did you even read that before you posted?] 

Wrongful inprisonment that you couldn't get out of unless you joined the army against your will. I'd call that practically slavery. I'd say thinking the Japanese shouldn't be citizens is less racist then rounding them up and holding them in camps. Just how thinking Jews shouldn't be citizens and shouldn't hold jobs is less racist then outright killing them. Most Germans held the first view. Hitler held the second. As for the Holocaust. I'll put it this way. Hoover gave FDR plenty of reasons and evidence that there was no just cause that the japanese should be interred... even when his generals told him not to. Are you telling me that Hoover didn't go to FDR about the Holocaust? A much bigger and more serious thing that wasn't getting talked about? Though how is FDR not a bush that got lucky. How was Japanese Internment rapidly different from Guantanamo? Edit: For some reason my replies aren't spacing after i post them. Sorry about that.

If your FDR/Bush comment was restricted to the Supreme Court rulings on the constitutionality of those two actions, then I withdraw my objections about that remark. 

And your other parallel is not accurate.  It's denying citizenship, marriage, and property ownership to people just because you hate them, versus imprisoning them because lots (but not all) of your advisors deem them a security risk ... and you don't like them.  My other point is that just because one racist is able to get away with more racist shit than another racist doesn't make the first racist more racist per se. 

Furthermore, I'm not aware of any quid pro quo involved in the enlistment, that is, there was no promise of not going back to the camps after serving in the military.  And even if there were, if people were allowed (not forced) to reduce their sentences by joining the military, would that make those who joined "practically slaves"?  The fact that the imprisonment is wrongful (in the case of the internment camps) doesn't somehow make the prisoner into a slave.  Are you saying that all prisoners are "practically" slaves?  I see a lot of lawsuits in the future!