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DirtyP2002 said:

Okay guys,

First of all: I like Nintendo. I had a N64 and had a great time with it. I love Zelda-games, but the Wii is not my type of console. I just don't like the controlls.

I know, the Wii is selling an insane amount of hardware and I am happy for Big N, but software is a whole other story.

Talking about software, the Wii sold 3million units, the PS3 2.4 million and the Xbox360 4.4 million.

Okay, this week is not that representitive, because Gears was a great success for MS and the Xbox 360.

So checking Wii Software: Wii Sports sold 500k, that game is bundled with every sold Wii from the very first beginning. So you can't say Big N sold this software. Same for Wii Play, which "sold" 200k and is buindled with every controller. So the "real" amount of software sold is 2.3 million. That is less than the PS3 sold on a far lower Userbase. I know Mari Kart and Wii Fit are selling like crazy, but thats another point. Almost every successfull Wii game comes with hardware. The first Wii game that is just a game and NOT bundled with any kind of hardware is Wii Music and it is at 38... Always keep in my mind what amount of Software PS3 or even better Xbox360 would have sold an such a great Userbase.

Things are not looking great for other publishers except Nintendo. Besides GH:WT (bundled with hardware) there is one (!!!) other game in the top 50, that is not published by Nintendo, ranked 50th.

Animal Crossing will sell like crazy, but mostly in Japan I guess. And just one game for a holiday-season is not that great. The hardware will keep on selling, but software is really behind my expectations. So this is not a "Wii is doomed thread!"

 

 

 

But Nintendo does sell Wii Sports. If no one bought the console then the game wouldn't sell either. Same with any bundled game. They are sold just not a lone. And Wii Play ISNT bundled. If you were going to make the relation the controller is bundled with the game not the game bundled with the controller. I mean if that's your argument then Guitar Hero game software sales don't count because obviously they are buying the shell of a guitar not the game.

Either way your argument is flawed and silly. No matter what condition software is sold, as long as it isn't free it is sold. It could be bundled with a console, peripheal, another game, ect. In the end it is being sold. Differentiating such as what they were buying in that bundle is speculation and assumption which we don't do in sales.

And now you are trying to say that Wii Music isn't doing well because it doesn't have hardware. Well Brawl and Galaxy have sold over 7 million and they don't have hardware. Mario Kart Wii would have sold just as well without the wheel. Wii Fit couldn't have worked without it's hardware. This argument not only doesn't make sense but it's childish you'd even bring it up. Like a meager understanding of sales by even suggesting that haha because it shows such a limited view on Wii software sales. Sure the 4 top selling games all have something bundled with them but easily take those bundles out and MK Wii, Wii Sport, and Wii Play all sell still pretty damn good. Wii Fit, of course, coudln't work without the balance board.

So now that you've presented easily one of the most silly arguments let's look at what you conclude. Publishers on Nintendo are not doing as well as they would do on the other consoles. I'd say there is 2 dominant reasons for this. First on PS3 or 360, 3rd parties DONT have to compete with Nintendo. It must be so great for 3rd parties to not have to compete with the biggest developer in the world. I mean MS and Sony games are in no way the same league of dominance as Nintendo franchises. That's just fact. Secondly, they don't give Wii the same content they give PS360. PS360 get the largest, most hyped, and biggest brand franchises every year while Wii gets the titles that fund them. And every now and then Wii will get a nice franchise but they won't advertise it like it. So it's amazing as it stands that Wii has been able to have more 3rd party million sellers than 1st party million sellers considering it shouldn't be like that. I guess they have to buy something after they finished buying the 1st party games.

So really I'd say software is not doing so bad but it could be so much better if early on Wii got what PS360 had. Might be too late to reverse that trend but we'll see what 2009 has to offer.