S.T.A.G.E. said:
ssj12 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
ssj12 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
hatmoza 2.0 said:
these 2 games were supose to be sonys big weapons !!! what happened?
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Gears of War 2 |
2,139,656 |
| 2 |
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Wii Sports
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501,402 |
| 3 |
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LittleBigPlanet |
358,354 |
| 4 |
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Wii Fit |
309,981 |
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Resistance 2
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304,958
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"fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me"
for the second time sony has let the PS3s price tag bring it down it didnt respond to 360s price drop ,and yet again gets dropped kicked in the face, my hat goes off to microsoft they played there cards well and finaly made me realize , that the 360 is where harcore gamers should be , because in the end its all about the games , and we shouldnt bitch about features that no one realy gives a ratsass about !
as a semi hardcoe gamer you still have my love Sony but 1st thing sunday im buying a new 360 !
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It's called having a shitty installed base. 1/4 of the current installed base actually pushes units and thats not enough, because those are only the top tier games. Why don't people listen when I say that the PS3 installed base has a neglectful portion of non gamers who only bought it because its a cheap Blu Ray player? Sony shot themselves in the foot selling to two different markets, because it lowered expectancies for game sales without them knowing it. They knew they were taking a risk in losing money, but didn't know that so many people who were non gamers would buy the PS3. Tsk....dumbasses.
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how is it shotting themselves in the foot? you realize movie studios make more money of Blu-ray sales versus DVD. So really Sony might have injured their game department but really helped their movie department meaning that in the end they are doing pretty well. Their tactics paid off.
You have to realize that Sony and Microsoft are not strictly game console manufacturers. They are multi-billion dollar corporations that have their hands in many different areas. They are willing to take a hit in one area if it benefits another.
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It's shooting themselves in the foot because Sony makes profit off of 30% of published titles. They could've made more if they didn't focus on two markets. You see, when people bought the PS3 strictly for Blu Ray is created a huge gap between true gamers and DVD player owners. They raised expectancies of profit for games and everything fell off kilter. If they want to sell a true multimedia system, they need to be more organized and even you can admit that.
Sony cannot afford to take so many hits. Microsoft took a hit and didn't have to give up as much as Sony, because it was just a problem with the system. If people weren't worried about quality in a microsoft system, the 360 would probably have sold more instead of getting such bad press about quality. I've just named Microsoft's achillies heel....can you name Sony's? I just did...but can you accept it.
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I think they are quite well organized. The PSP is making Sony a profit. It is a multimedia device. Frankly the PSP is a success. Sony did their thing and accomplished it. UMD might have failed but studios still release movies on it sometimes (Warner and Sony do at least). They can do the same with the PS3.
This isnt about software sales as much as hardware. You need hardware costs to go down. Sony has been insanely successful when it comes to doing this. With more PS3s and Blu-ray players sold the cheaper the drives will become. I wouldnt be shocked if Sony doesnt start making a profit in 2009.
Anyways for software you realize that most games, minus say Killzone 2, FFXIII, and a few others, dont need to sell 1 million to make profit. Crysis made a profit selling 200k and its graphics by far destroys everything on consoles today. There is no software numbers like Gears or GTA4 needed to be called a success. You realize Gears 2 only needed to sell maybe 200k copies to break even? you want to know why? Unreal Engine 3 isnt a new engine, engine upgrades dont cost much, they reused old textures, models, etc and polished them. You know what though? Microsoft isnt benefiting from the success as much as Epic is. 95% of all profit goes to the developer not pubisher.
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Ok, I guess PSP has to come into this, but UMD isn't Blu Ray you see. It's a multimedia device, but doesn't use DVD's. The PSP is agreat handheld. What it competes against are other multimedia devices such as the IPOD (In which I find the I phone to be more relevant). On a gaming tip I like the PSP out of all the handhelds though.
This has everything to do with both, because one effects the other reguardless of non-interchangable nature. Of course Sony had to drop the price of software. They also had lower the production costs of the PS3 or else thhey would've been in trouble. The PS3 saved Blu Ray players from being just as pointless as HD-DVD. All alternative DVD players are pointless and redundant. It's not like I wish Sony i'll about making profit, I just wish they would smarten up. Sony got two different markets confusing the projections of their sales. They need to lower expectancy to get true sales attachments.
Crysis sold 200k, ok. Tell me this though...since consoles have become the mainstream PC games sales have been struggling besides for a couple of games. I never said sales over 1 million is needed to be a success, otherwise id be up in the air when games like Ico or Shadow of the Colossus didn't sell so amazing the companies still made profit. You don't need to tell me this. I'm just stating that Sony is raising projections after selling a multimedia console to two different markets. 1/4 of the people who bought the console will account for true sales of games or even less.
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