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By the gods! This site is so riddled with groundless hate that I felt an uncontrollable desire to step forward and take a new direction. So, instead of blindly lauding your platform of choice and the corporate machines behind them, and hating machines you don't own simple because you don't own them, let's get together to do some informed bashing about something we do actually understand: the machines we currently own and love. But there are three rules here:

THE RULES

1) You must only list things you hate about the gaming platforms you own and you really like. This is not a thread for saying petty crap like: 'Oh, my console rocks; I don't dislike anything about it', or 'Well, I suppose I don't like this and that, but I love this, this, and this'. List things you hate, or go away. This is a bashing thread for letting off steam, not a thread to secretly promote your box of electronics of choice.

2) If you like and own more than one gaming platform, list things you hate for them all, or don't mention the others. So, don't say: 'Well, I own everything, but only the PS3 rocks, because the others are crap like this, but the PS3 isn't!' This is not a thread for promotion, it's a thread for demotion; get with the hate already! If you can't find room in your heart for some hate regarding your beloved machine, go read another thread.

3) Just to be clear: hate, hate, hate.

Now, here's mine (or, at least, the first batch of them, I have many more, and a ton for the PC):

PS3

1) I hate mandatory game installs. R1 and R2, Uncharted, R&C -- hell, loads of games -- don't have them, so why the hell should anyone else? Get it sorted developers. I don't want to have to fill my HDD because you can't be assed finding better ways to program on the PS3.

2) I hate MGS4's rolling installs. They suck. I want to install the whole bloody game, not just bits of it at a time, only to erase and reinstall again and again. It's uber-crap, and wastes my life.

3) I hate crap multi-plats, forcing me to turn to my PC.

4) I hate screen-tearing. I bought an HD console for gorgeousness, not ripped graphics that look like pish.

5) I hate delays.

6) I hate Sony's promises turning to might-have-beens.

7) I hate wired controllers for SingStar.

8) I hate any SingStar product beyond SingStar volume 1; really, changing disks for songs or modes I should be able to download? Get with the current gen, Sony!

9) I hate crappy downloadable content that costs tons. Yoda, I'm looking at you.

10) I hate that Ps3 games costing so much more than their PC equivalents. I don't care about the reasons. I hate it.

11) I hate that there are so few PS1 games available on the PSN.

12) I hate the lack of PS2 backwards compatability.

13) I hate I can't buy PS2 games on the PSN.

14) I hate the lack on online integration for PSN accounts.

15) I hate how long downloads can take from the PSN -- I have 20Mb cable; why does it take over half an hour for a crappy demo?

16) I hate SCEE -- they really suck.

And extras edited in as the topic grew:

17) I hate so many games don't have trophies.

18) I particularly hate games not patching in trophies. Again, I don't care about the reasons, I just hate it.

19) I hate the lack of intelligent use of the SIXAXIS and Eye in more games; I feel it's a crime these peripherals are not used more when there is obvious utility, and the few games that use them well rock.

20) I hate that all games on PS3 do not have demos on the PSN.

21) I hate the damned inconsistent XMB loading times -- sometimes it's fast and slick, sometimes it spins away for a few seconds seemingly doing nothing.

22) I hate the delays you get when synching with the trophies: sure, it's only a few seconds (and I don't have that many trophies, I'm only level ... uhh, let's wait 10 secs to find out as I check ... maybe 20? ... Ah, here it is, level 4 with 96 trophies), but it's too many seconds as far as I'm concerned. Surely the it can be made to access faster?

23) I hate the exorbitant cost of extra Dualshock 3 controllers -- I've bought 3 of the buggers so far, and I begrudge every single, bloody penny, as I need them to properly enjoy my games.

24) I hate that Sony didn't include all the cables I needed in the box -- I had to haggle with the salesman when I bought my TV and PS3 so he'd chuck in an HDMI cable, and that felt pretty cheap when I'd already screwed him out of a pretty big discount.

25) I hate the short Eye cable, it makes playing EoJ an utter eye strain if you have a large TV, which I kinda do.

That's my expanding first list. How about you? Can you shed your fanboy beer goggles? Remember, if posting, we want no love at all, no 'I hate this, but really like this'. This is a hate thread for the machine you love, so please try to keep the hate pure and unsullied by any silly desires to make your favoured machine look a little better. If you really have to, think of it this way: you are only listing a bunch of things you hate about a machine because, in truth, you love it, so merely making a post of things you hate shows how much love you have. Or something.

Anyone else man enough to hate with me?