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soulsamurai said:
Most of these are derived from mario though. this is exactly my point.....

All of them. I believe BK used the SM64 engine.

I don't think Mario needs to be replaced though; the conventions can be broken when Miyamoto feels like it. Look at SMW vs. SMW2 vs. SM64. They are three consecutive Mario games, all perfect, but are very different from one another in gameplay, style, design and everything else.