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bardicverse said:
Tremble said:
@bardicverse: are u sure about the 30$ stuff? Cause i think it's way too much. taxes, shipment, translation, nintendo royalties, ads, retailers... would only count for 20$?

@disolitude - tired or not, its just simple numbers. 400k is NOT bad for a Wii game, definitely not a bomb. 100K LT WW is the common breakeven. Anything under that is a bomb on the Wii. Anything under 500K on an HD system is a bomb. It's all relative to development cost, whether you like to hear it or not, its the cold truth of the matter. Oh, and I've been around the industry for a while, so I actually do know the average sales v. profit stats, but I assume you weren't aiming that comment at me. I know that you know better than that.

This may have been the case in 2005...but today it just doesn't make sense. HD systems still get 2X the amout of big games (if not more) compared to the wii. And a good chunk don't sell 500K. I'm sure developers and 3rd parties don't like losing money...yet by your logic, it seems they are doing just that.

A lot of the resources are being reused these days...like Condemned 2 used a lot of the textures and dev tools from FEAR and Condemned 1. Unreal 3 engine is quite cheap to licence. Also, it really depends on individual games. There is no way something like the new Golden Axe cost 10 million or more to make. Game has worse production and visuals than a lot of wii games I have. DMC4 may look like a blockbuster title so everyone assumes something like that costs 20-30 million to make, but the entire second half of the game is the same levels backwards, it has no CGI, no big name voice actors or licenced soundtracks... I'm sure capcom raped the sales on that one cosidering it sold over 2 million and I doubt it cost over 10 mil. Games should be judged individually rather than lumping all wii games as "3 million productions" and all hd games as "15 million+".

My post wasn't a dig at you individually, but everyone posting on this site thinking they know business strategies better than giant corporations making these games. They know where the money is...