OMG... the Economist endorses Obama.

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TheRealMafoo said:

akuma587 said:

TheRealMafoo said:

steven787 said:

The Ghost of RubangB said:
If you're Libertarian, aren't you as liberal as me on the social scale?  How is that not pathetic?

I'll like other states when they do something cool, but right now California is our capital for film, music, and technology.

See, this is what I don't get.  Why am I the only ex-Libertarian or Libertarian who votes dem.  You can vote away your economic freedoms and then bitch and complain to get them back but it's a lot harder to get your civil liberties back.

Two reasons. One is while I want abortion to be legal, gay marriage, legalizing drugs... all that stuff... in the end, none of that effects me directly. I am not gay, will never have an abortion, and don't do drugs (not illegal ones anyway).

And the other reason is if I did want to do those things, the government is very bad at stopping me. Abortion is legal, Drugs anyone can get, and if I was gay, I am sure 90% of my lifestyle would be permitted.

The government however is extremely good at taking away my economic freedoms. You don't pay your taxes, and they will find you.

So I vote for the freedoms that the government sucks at taking away. if a Libertarian had a snow balls chance in hell of wining, I would vote for him or her. The closest thing we had was Ron Paul, and look how that turned out.

So I should only vote on issues that directly affect me? That's just plain myopic.  That's the kind of attitude that kept women from voting, that allowed men to kill their wives without being punished by society, that kept black people in slavery, and that kept kids working in the coal mines for 80 hours a week.  That's the kind of attitude of someone who doesn't deserve to live in this country.

Next time I go to the polls I will only vote for any of the propositions that say, "The state of Texas will give akuma587 X amount of dollars in cash," and the ones that say "Akuma587 will be our unquestioned leader from now on."

When I vote not to spread the wealth, it's not my wealth I am voting to protect. How pathetic of an attempt to vilify me.

I think the government is good at taking away one thing, and bad at taking away another. I think they shouldn't take away either, so I vote in the direction that limits them taking away the thing they are good at taking away.

Sorry your small mind can't see that past your hate. How is it you care about anyone else? Sure doesn't show with regards to me. I guess I have to be poor for your to give a shit about me.

You implied that you don't care much about abortion, gay rights, and drug reform because you don't have personal involvement with those three things.  So, akuma587 says, since you're not a woman, does that mean you also don't care about women's rights?  If you have no children, do you not care about child labor laws or education? 

And on the subject of the government being bad at taking away civil liberties, perhaps you missed the whole "warrantless wiretapping" deal?  Or the many other perfidies of the Bush Administration?  Do you not care that people are being held indefinitely without trial, have been held for years without ever getting a lawyer or being charged with crimes, because you don't personally know any of those people?  Or because most of them happen to be a different color or religion? 

Oh yeah, and then there's the torture.  Maybe they have to be rich for you to give a shit about them?