The Fury said:
Ah, then...I dunno, Superman's team wins. :) It's not Juggernaut's armour, his invulnerability is given to him by the Crimson Gem of Cyttorak, a mystical item that gives whoever is Juggernaut, certain powers, one of those is a mystically gain invulnerbility, total invulnerbility protecting him from any physical harm. Even Wolverine's claws. It is the difference between a psyical power and a mystical. Hulk is all physical and Juggernaut all mystical and mystical magics deal with absolutes while physical power's do not. That doesn't mean Juggernaut can't be beaten, he can and has often. He's lose in a straight strength fight to many people, Hulk and Apolcaypse for example but that doesn't mean he'd come to any harm during the fight. In a recent story a full powered Juggernaut and Hulk (World War Hulk story) duked it out, with Hulk winning not through beating Juggernait because he couldn't but by tricking him and removing him from the area of battle until the comic ended, by then Juggs use was wasted. Ah okay...sorry, in a battle, Superman is king. Although could Darkseid not put up a good fight? I'm ignoring cosmic gods here for course.
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yeah, i understand your point about juggernaut's body having invulnerability. when i said 'armor' i was merely saying it as an expression (steel of my armor = meaning my self confidence, personal will power, etc.), and not a literal piece of armor :P
but the way i understand his invulnerability is that yeah, his body will not deteriorate under physical attacks. my point was that he can be handily defeated in a myriad of ways. the fact you mentioned there with how hulk beat him is a good example. and in fighting games this is definitely an indication of jug's 'beatability': he can be outsmarted, his will can be broken, he can be knocked out, and he can be stunned. and he can definitely be hurt and feel pain, though it will never show on his body.
yeah dark did put up some kind of fight.. but it was rather cheap, don't you think so?