bigjon said:
hmm, well in that case I can see that your logic is flawed. It is rather inmature to adjust your political views just to piss off the people you disagree with. Also, just because it is being used in the Uk or France does not mean that it is not Maxist. The Basic Idea stems from Karl Marx. Notice, it is difference to call someone a communist, than to call someone a Maxist. Also last time I checked France had a much higher Unemployment rate than the US.... I guess we know what to expect then. |
The part about pissing you off was a joke. Unemployment is measured differently in different countries, the U.S. measures it in a way that makes it look lower, because USDL pollers ask the questions in a way more open to excluding the disenfranchised unemployed than other countries.
Your main point is right though, France is fucked up. Not because of the socialist party though. It's fucked up because the constituency doesn't care about the indicators that we care so much about. There are problems in France, but they are different than the ones here, they aren't throwing money into killing innocent muslim children by the hundreds of thousands; the U.S. is (whether accidental or otherwise, we chose to go into a country, for no reason, and kill children and other civilians).
They look at national health as education, art, healthcare, and infrastructure. Those evil socialists. Making sure education and healthcare are provided for all of their citizens, treating children and immigrant like human beings. WTF are they thinking.
BTW, this is a democracy and it seems like a voting majority disagrees with you. They think healthcare shouldn't be tied to their job or the market. They think that what they pay into the government when they see good times should be paid to them in bad times.
Perhaps more unexpected is that almost two-thirds (64%) of the public believes government can do a lot to address the cost of health care, and people across the political spectrum believe government should try to address health care prices – 65% of Republicans, 74% of Independents, and 86% of Democrats, among the large majorities who say any health-related prices are unreasonable.
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When faced with a choice between the government trying to solve the health care cost problem by dealing directly with providers and insurers and limiting what they can charge versus giving consumers tax incentives to buy high-deductible coverage and encouraging them to shop for lower prices and better quality, most people (59%) choose direct government action over the more market-oriented solution (34%). That was true across the board for Democrats (66%), Independents (58%), and Republicans (52%).
A large nationwide poll of Republican voters shows that an increasing number consider themselves conservative, that about half favor universal healthcare and allowing gays in the military, and that the vast majority say spreading democracy shouldn’t be the United States’ top foreign policy goal.
I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.
