The state of consoles post-Moore's Law

[Grey Acumen]

vlad321 said:

You seem to be contradicting yourself there. Obviously Nintendo has already started down the path of non-gaming features and mass storage. Look at what Nintendo is doing with the DSi, adding many non-gaming gadgets, I can see them doing the same to the wii. It also only makes sense that the next gen from Nintendo will try to remedy all the negatives of this current gen, unless they come out with something new and as innovative as the Wiimote they will probably up their graphics and multimedia support for next-gen. Otherwise why would it be next gen with no improvements?

I don't think I mentioned aiming anywhere, also I don't see where movement with such amazing precision would be needed outside of platformer games, or games with such elements. I guess racing games too, but you can get very cheap wheel/pedal addons for the PC which are far superiior than the normal kbd input and any analog stick input. I also don't know what Thief you've been playing, but the PC was much less annoing to control and manage than the PS2 version by a mile.

Sorry to disappoint you, but if the PC needed motion controls for its games then there will be motion controls, it's completely possibile to add motion controls to a PC if the need arises. As I stated above you just won't be able to bring the party-game environment to the PC platform, and Nintendo isn't the only one doing things like that.

Nintendo isn't but they way Microsoft and Sony are heading with adding more and more crap to their systems with every generation sure are. The more they add the less ease-of-use there is and the more problems the consoles start sharing with the PCs. Consoles need to back off on the useless and complicated stuff and just focus on their strengths, which is the ease-of-use and no hassle of just drop and start playing a minute later.

Dude, again you're bringing stuff up that is yet to be confirmed with the DSi. So far all they have is that it can take pictures, and maybe view them? Sorry, but I DON'T see that going too far in depth. It does make sense for them to address storage and boost their specs a bit, but again, this does not a PC make, as it's pretty obvious that all of those features are going to be focused on primarily on the gaming aspect.

the problem you're running into is "NEED =/= WANT" Just because a keyboard is sufficient for a game doesn't mean that analog control won't make it more comfortable to use. As for Thief, I played the PC version, I just used a PS2 controller and mapped all the controls to that. It works quite well, provided you aren't utterly dependent on items and weapons being assigned to hotkeys.

And the PC doesn't need motion controls because no game that needs motion controls will be designed for the PC because there are no motion controls on the PC. Oh wait, there are, just that no one really noticed, which is pretty much the whole point. You think someone can come out with motion controls for the PC? Go ahead, tell me then. Which company is going to put them out? Microsoft? Dell? HP? Toshiba? What game are they going to use to push those controls? How are they going to market games for the PC that require motion controls when most people still have mouse + keyboard, and how are they going to market the motion controls for the PC when there aren't any games that need them?
This is the conundrum that all PC companies face. None of them are lare enough to make a signifigant innovative difference in the market within which they exist. Only console companies can do this, because they are the ones who decide their market.

 

And yes, I've made numerous posts that M$ and Sony are shooting themselves in the foot the way they're headed. Certain elements of PCs are going to be incorporated simply as part of the technology advancing, but I think Nintendo has still maintained a firm grip on those elements that seperate itself from PC gaming, and it's more than just party games.