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Legend11 said:
Umm just because some hardcore gamers enjoy casual games does not make those casual games hardcore.

Grand Theft Auto is casual? Since when?

I think that Zelda is a 'casual' game.  It's why it is stupid to particularly focus on the word 'casual'.

Games that sell over 2 or 3 million worldwide are no longer hardcore becuase they are being accessed by the 'casual'.

I don't think you understand the thought behind the different types of gamers in the market.