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Wow. Nightstriker you're saying the PS3 is done and it's not even 2 years old yet. I think you need to be reminded that the PS1 and PS2 did not have good 1st year performances and it wasn't til the end of the 2nd year that it really started taking off. Which is happening with the PS3. I know the PS3 has a long road ahead of it, but to say that the PS3 has already lost this gen is just the most thoughtless retarded thing to say. On that note a system can't be a "loser" if the system is still attracting new consumers and software support. The Dreamcast is a "loser". The 3DO, Saturn, Phillips CD-i, Jaguar, Nomad, Wonderswan and PSX (Sony's revamped PS2, not the original PlayStation) are "losers".