If it weren't for Wii, I wouldn't own a console this gen.

[frybread]

mowe said:

frybread said:

ManusJustus said:

frybread said:

To equal a 360 would probably take $350 to $400 on a PC.   $500 would get you a PC that runs Bioshock, Mass Effect, GTA IV, Gears, and any other game with far better visual quality than 360/PS3.  Also, many PC users prefer Steam to Live, and there's no law against using a PC in the living room, 360 controller in hand.

Not to mention a monitor, keyboard, speakers, as well as something to put all that stuff in as well as the know how and hours to do it.  That's well over $500 for a system that will be out of date in a year and wont be able to run new games like the XBox 360 can.

I dont want to play PC games with a controller on the couch (just as a majority of other people), I like the monitor and keyboard for those games.  Thats not to mention different setups for PC and console games, I'd have to sacrifice actions and quality to play a PC game with a controller.

Does 360 come with a TV?

Does 360 come with speakers?

Does 360 come with a free couch?

Mouse + Keyboard: $15

As for difficulty, putting a PC together is easier than some lego kits.

 

As for going out of date in a year, that's ridiculous.   The system is far more powerful than 360, and games are still being made for 360.  So when FFXIII comes out, or any future multiplatform game, the PC above will be able to run them with better visuals than 360, as usual.

The current state of multiplatform gaming has made low-end PC's future-proof.

 

 

Now, see, I have a problem with that statement. No, the 360 doesn't come with those things but every single person who buys a console already has those things. And they use it for other stuff, too, not just gaming.

The problem for me with PC gaming is that whole installing games thing. That takes up room on your PC, and the more games you have, the slower your computer runs. Plus, actually buying a PC that runs games decently can be quite expensive (easily more expensive than a console). And playing games in full HD on a huge screen is an experience in itself.

 

Addressing your points:

1) People who buy a 360 already have a TV.  People who buy a PC do not have a monitor, keyboard or mouse.

False for several reasons.  A) It's possible for a non-TV owner to buy a console, there is no law that states you must own a TV to purchase one.  My brother this last week is a good example, buying both at the same time.  B) Many PC owners already have monitors, keyboards and mice, as do console owners.  C) You can hook a PC up to a TV, just as easy as a console - negating the need for a monitor.

It's simply not fair to include a monitor in the price of a PC, and not include a TV in the price of a console.

2) The more games you have, the slower your computer runs.

False.  HDD space has very litte to do with overall computer speed, and if it does, you need a defrag.

3) Building a PC that runs games decently can be quite expensive.

Sort of true, but not much. You'll spend about $100 more than a console building a gaming PC.  See the $500 rig linked in the quote above, which outperforms 360/PS3 in visuals.

 

The whole point of this thread is that 360/PS3 are trying so hard to be PC's, that they end up overlapping PC gaming - and for anyone who knows their way around PC's, the consoles come up short.   I mean, they just found online gaming!  They're still amazed by user created content!  For non-PC owners I can see why it's incredible, but for the rest of us, been there done that (in higher res and more detail).

Wii embraces the qualities of a console, takes gaming in a different direction from PC's, and that makes it the only console worthy of a purchase for a PC gamer.