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MikeB said:

@ selnor

I could talk all day how the memory of the PS3 holds it back


Of course that's the case for any console or computer. Be that the 360, PS3 or NeoGeo.

However the Blu-Ray storage space is much more important as well as a default harddrive (reading speed) for the long run vs the 360. The NeoGeo had very little RAM to work with compared to other systems of its time (look into it vs PC gaming), it's more about how fast you can move data around for a console than how large pieces of data can be, which could just as well be broken and processed in smaller parts.

If you come from a PC-only development background I can easily understand it if you believe the PS3 has critical memory roadblocks, but if you come from a NeoGeo, c64, Amiga, etc expert development background you will see an ocean of memory and endless opportunities to enhance data structures, processing tactics, etc. Audio and textures data usually take up the most memory space (not executables!), yet PS3 games like MGS4 are coming out for the PS3 with supreme 7.1 lossless audio and top quality assets.

Like I said some time ago I think Christmas 2009 this whole PS3 vs 360 debate will be entirely obsolete (with regard to exclusive games as well as multi-platform titles).

 

 Create a different thread if you want to discuss it. Your right By christmas 2009 the debate will be over, entirely obsolete. People will see there is no difference when Alan Wake, Mass Effect 2 and Peter Jacksons Halo project land. Regardless of Blu ray, HDD or DVD the CPU has to go through the memory to access the info ANY info. The Bandwidth speed of PS3 memory both reading and writing is significantly slower than 360's. Even though PS3 memory can work simultaneously with both gpu and CPU it's significantly slower. In the time it takes for the cell and RSX to recieve info to process once each, the 360 CPU can do 3 and GPU 2 in the same time period. And thats alternatively. You do the math based on Bandwidth figures.

So thats 5 read and writes alltogether for 360 in the same period as PS3 does 2. No matter what ANYONE says about the Cell it's held back by the memory speed. It cannot I repeat cannot get info to process any other way.

Ok start a new thread for this.