| IllegalPaladin said: Noobs? Really? |
Apple computers are competitively priced at the time they put a new revision on sale (there's been comparisons, you can check Tom's Hardware for example, mac pro vs cheapest newegg components). However unlike other companies out there, they don't revise their prices downward as time goes on. If you buy right after a revision you aren't overpaying for what's inside the box.
The ram: apple literally will gouge you for ram upgrades. Luckily for you and me, all their computers (except the mini, if I recall properly) can easily be serviced. Order with stock ram, then upgrade yourself.
As long as you follow these two guidelines, you won't be paying a premium for an apple computer. By the way, Apple is a couple weeks from a laptop upgrade so I'd suggest you hold until then if you were thinking about buying a macbook/macbook pro.
It used to be a problem back when they were on the esoteric powerpc roadmap but now that they are using intel it's easy to predict their revision cycles.








