Tispower1 said:
vlad321 said:
Timmah! said:
In the same way that a being living in a 2-dimensional world could not possibly explain a 3-dimensional being with their own science and understanding (nor could they prove or disprove the existence of a 3-dimensional being from their perspective), our understanding of our own physical, 3-dimensional world cannot explain, prove, or disprove the existence of God, a being that lives in a world of higher dimensions (outside time). We can make assumptions of the existence of God based on our limited understanding, but those assumptions are very subjective to our own opinions and interpretation of facts and the world around us.
Because of this, the only real, solid evidence that one can have of the existence of God is personal experiences, and a living relationship with Him- To those of you who don't have these personal experiences, it seems foolish to believe in something you can't see, because you haven't experienced him; to those of us who have experienced God's power, witnessed his intervention, and have a living relationship with him, it seems foolish to live without that. Arguments seldom convince nonbelievers of the existence of God.
The only way to convince others is for us as the Church of Jesus to begin to live in the love and power that Jesus demonstrated for us through His life, and use our lives as proof that God is alive and well. Until the Church is willing to step out of dead religion, and back into a living, powerful relationship with our creator, we have no power to convince people of the existence and love of God. |
It soundss like you have been reading Flatland. Just because there may have been something that created the universe in another universe doesn't mean it's god. It also doesn't mean that Jesus was anything other than a normal human being with the ability to get people to follow him with blind faith. Also, I doubt that if anything from another dimension did spark our universe that they give a shit about us or are abel to control our world at all. Please point me to the 2D universe so we can go be their gods. Didn't think you could.
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Like I said earlier, what other things would have caused the universe? An equivalent of a universe bread making machine. The fact of the matter is, we have no way of explaining how this universe came into being.
Edit: Apart from something out side this physical universe, perhaps a God of some form?
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We have no way of explaining how god made this universe either, or even explaining that god exists. We have far more evidence and theories of the beginnning of the universe than anything pointing to god. Yeah it could be a god, but it's not the Christian god, Jesus was nothign more than a normal man, and like I said, there's a whole race of "gods" out there if we were created by something, also it was probably either as a scientific experiment or by an accident and they don't give a shit or don't affect us. Thus us believing in them or not is absolutely inconsequential since it won't make a difference in anything.
