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appolose said:
vlad321 said:
appolose said:

 

 

 

But you do realize, even if we could somehow prove empiricism (with empiricism) one day, that until the, you are in the same boat as I; having to assume something is true or not.  We have to take a starting point apart from evidence.  Furthermore, we still are stuck with much more than a reasonable doubt when it comes to concluding that science can show us anything.

Yes, I realize that, but neither am I about to believe something about science just on blind faith, that's the same as religion and I classify such people as religious myself. I'm also not gonna believe science can figure everything out butso far it has been taking steps towards that, very slowly over the centuries but still some steps. Meanwhile the religious preachers have been retreating constantly as science advances and not vice versa. Science does not prove/disprove everything right now but it might in the future, it might not. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

Perhaps there is, but even in this instance it's not so much as the parents playing off the child's gullibility and forcing information down there throats as it is when it comes to eating their veggies; the parent believes in both, and, as such, teaches both.  It's not manipulation.

The parent moght believe in both, but only one will actually assure the wellbeing of the child on this green Earth. Meanwhile atheists have been living and dying since forever without restricted abilities or health problems. At the same children who don't eat their veggies generally don't do as well as thos who do in terms of health.  That's what the big difference is between the two.

 

But how would the parents have known that what they taught was horrid?  They probably had the same assurance of what they taught about religion as they did anything else (and I'm sure there were many things that were taught that we're not religious and yet were horryfing and deadly as well).

It's exactly because the parents don't know whether it's horrid or not that they shouldn't be imprinting their beliefs on their kids. And yes there have been many more non religious things that were horrifying as well, but they would not have existed, or they would have existed to a much smaller scale, if the parents weren't transfering their beliefs over to the new generation.

 

While the Bible certainly doesn't give a cutoff age for salvation,  why risk not telling them as early as possible?  If they died early, and they were at an age where they would be going to hell if they died, then the parent has just let their kid go to the worst place imaginable.

So what is the age at which a person goes to hell? 4? 5? 2?

 

Yes, my parents told me and convinced me from an early age.  Now, I believe in God because I presuppose.

Those were more of rhetorical questions to invoke self reflection, but thank you for answering. I know a lot of people who didn't pick up religion from their parents as well, but it has always been the caase that they pick it up from someone they trust a whole lot.

 

 

 

@tispower:

I'm fairly sure the Europeans also fullfilled some prophecies, like when they arrived and what their horses. It's easy to make things that are happening into prophecies. That's why so many people believe Nostradamus, they see something and make it fit into his prophecies.

@Kasz

I didn't say the randomness is beyond us and it will be so forever, a lot of things were beyond our knowledge at every step of the human race, to continue my previosu example, like lightning. I'm sure back in the day people believed that lightnings were god's sign, especially if they hit somene/thing but now we know better. So let's see where the future takes the human race in terms of this randomness.



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