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cwbys21 said:
Onimusha12 said:
 

Final Fantasy Fans? You mean the typical 11-19 year old anime fan gamers on forums who chronically choose the angriest pictures they can find of either Sephiroth, Dragonball Z, Naruto or Avatar: The Last Airbender characters for their icons? Now, I'm not saying that to try and insult anyone, but you do realize Kingdom Hearts epitomizes everything that has become Final Fantasy's "Bubble Gum Soda Pop High School Musical meets Hot Topic" appeal since Hironobu Sakaguchi (The Miyamoto of Final Fantasy) left Square and FFX became the new standard of "excellence". Kingdom Hearts is practically Square's Magnum Opus in the eyes of any gamer who honestly still thinks there is any value to what Final Fantasy has become.

 The only Final Fantasy fans who would be immune to Kingdom Hearts appeal are maybe the older elitists who buy into Final Fantasy's current direction purely for its pretentious and gaudy presentation (you know the people that can't get enough of the FF7 meets Metal Gear Solid imagery of FF13) or those who think the golden days of Final Fantasy never left and its just as good as its always been.

I'm seriously not trying to insult anyone here but wake up and see the Final Fantasy animal for what it is. This is not high art we're talking about here.

Wow, way to make a complete ass out of yourself by trying to paint an audience of 5-10 million people into simple stereotypes.  Also, the reason Square needed to sell part of its stock to Sony and merge with Enix is because Spirits Within cost them 100 million dollars, and Square isn't big enough to swallow that big of a loss.  A big reason for that is because of Sakaguchi wanting to do it all without motion capture and ran up the budget to a number that they would have a tough time recouping, and because of it Sakaguchi left the company.  I don't know why Uematsu left, or ever heard of the other guy as I have never played the tactics games.  One last thing, Spirits Within released July 11, 2001 in the US, FFX released before that, so Sakaguchi didn't leave during the making of FFX, he left after it was done.

 

Forgive me for not ignoring the startling correlations between the typical members on this forum who meet the afore mentioned criteria and the ceasless desperate love for anything square-enix. While there are Square-Enix fans of all ages and predispositions, you can't ignore the droves of individuals who are either too young to remember Square as having ever been anything else or those still trying desperately to live in the glory days the PS1 where JRPGs were still something to be marveled at and Squaresoft was still King.

It's funny FFX is considered the last great FF game and yet was the last one worked on by Sakaguchi. Ever since then the franchise and the company haven't been the same. Without Sakaguchi nothing was sacred anymore, sequels and spin-offs of Main Series FF games were now fair game and FF7 was now free pickings for a talent starved company.

Sakaguchi was Final Fantasy, but he was always what killed it with the Spirits Within. If Square-Enix had just left Final Fantasy to rest in peace, they would have at least maintained their integrity and moved on to other things. Now all they do is rape the name sake of Final Fantasy and line their pockets with money from remake after remake after remake after remake. The DQ games get matterial cut out of their Western versions and the special editions of any of Squaresoft's game never see the West going as far back as FF7. With all this adversity towards quality one can only marvel at anyone still being a fan of this trainwreck of a developer.

The only thing their games are good for anymore is knowing enough people will blindly buy them that they can be used as bragging rights against the other consoles that didn't get them.