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FilaBrasileiro on 10 September 2008
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marciosmg said:
BKK2 said:

The taxes for games in Brazil (and yes, we make up a whole bunch of taxes and then the money disappears on politics's pockets):

II = 28%
ICMS = 25%
IPI = 50%
PIS = 1.65%
Confins = 7.6%

Total = 112.25% on taxes alone, when you add shipping and stuff like that then you can see how a game can cost 257% over its value, making the business unfeasible.

Producing in the Zona Franca de Manaus gets rid of at least 2 taxes: II and IPI, making it more feasible to sell merchandise.


I guess the taxes you mention are import taxes? What are the other taxes?

And if they can sell the system and games for the prices I mentioned earlier or cheaper in all of Latin America, it'll be for at least another 5 and selling well...


PS2 will probably still be in production by the time PS4 gets released, lol. Sony's "ten year plan" for PS3 seems short compared to it's predecessor.

What do you mean when you say more expensive than copies? Do you mean more expensive then pirated games?


Yeah, I meant pirated games. Most people will still go for those, but I guess some will buy original games if they are more reasonably priced.

Even so, if Sony manages to diminish the price of the console, coupled with the fact that they are getting a profit from each unit sold, they could make a lot of money come christmas time.

So piracy would still hurt them, but they would be able to make a lot of money from legal purchases. NOt to mention of the people who will buy the cheaper real games.

 

 

Exactly, a lot of people will still buy pirated games, but Sony will make money on the Hardware no matter what, the PS2 cannot cost more than 80 bucks to make (and it'll probably be cheaper in Brazil), but also let's say Sony releases God of War and God of War 2 there and presses the discs in Brazil and all that and sells the games for R$30 - R$ 60, while they won't stop pirates and won't stop people from buying pirated games, they'll achieve at the very worst moderate success. They also have to realize that all this money is extra money in their pockets, they cannot be too greedy or they won't sell anything, so taking away development costs and stuff like that, if it costs them R$10 to press the discs and get them to the stores, R$10 profit for the store and R$ 10 profit for Sony, that is a very healthy profit per disc. Right now God of War probably costs R$100 legally in Brazil.

I don't know how feasible that is and I doubt that will happen when you consider that new DVD movies in Brazil are usually R$50 (though I don't know if they are pressed there or what), we can just wait and see now...

Sony should also be smart and release Singstars and Buzz all over the place, I know that Singstar would sell well in Brazil, and probably Buzz too.