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Lolcislaw on 10 September 2008
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I don't understand why these "hardcore" gamers complain about this. They're obviously not the target audience and they're obviously not going to buy it. So why does it bother them so much?

 

1. They are fanboys.

2. They think every game ever made should be made for them.

 

Or what about:

3. The more success Nintendo has producing and selling this type of crap, the more they devote all of their resources to crap in the future, forgetting to produce and sell actual decent games?

It would make 0 business sense for Nintendo to make something high-quality when they can make low-budget crap like Wii Music and still sell units.

That is why hardcore gamers hate "games" like Wii Music. If low-budget games like Wii Music are successful, then you can bet that Nintendo will devote more and more of their resources towards games like Wii Music, and less and less of their reources towards games like Metroid, Zelda, Donkey Kong, etc.

Why make good games that cost 10X more to make when you can sell low-budget crap like Wii Music that costs nothing to make yet brings in the same/greater revenue?

 

So all of Nintendo's resources have been devoted to the whole 5 games (Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Music) that fit this casual niche? And then you go on to call these low budget games which kind of contradicts your claim that any number of resources are going to these.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe Nintendo is maintaining the casual market in addition to the other markets? We've had LOZ: Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn with plenty more on the way, yet all you can do is cry about these handful of casual games that don't affect anyone but casual gamers.

Does anyone else notice most of the people hating on this game don't even own a Wii or care for Nintendo this generation? I smell fear, fear of success, and fear of Nintendo doing well. God forbid the Wii play up one of its biggest strengths this generation, the casual market.

I own a Wii and have owned one since the day after it got released. The only reason I didn't get one on the day of release is because I thought Wii would go the way of Gamecube so I thought picking one up on the day of release would be as easy as A,B, C and only pre-ordered a month before release (but not even sure what made me pre-order since I didn't think finding one would be an issue). On the day of release the shop assistant gave me the terrible news that I pre-ordered to late to make the first batch. I spent the evening going from shop to shop in search of Wii and calling up so many places. I was so devastated I couldn't find one that my wife had tp pray to God that I would be able to find one the next day as she could see how down I was. That's how much of a Nintendo fan I am. But that doesn't stop me hating this piece of crap and wishing every day it gets cancelled.

I understand the game is not meant for me but I also realise that if this is very successful (and I expect it to be very successful and sell at least 5 million) then things like this would be where the majority of Nintendo's focus will be in the future. Yes we have had MP3, Zelda, Mario Kart, Brawl, Galaxy but that doesn't guarantee that Nintendo will continue invest significant amount of time in such games going forward. It is more likely to mean that Miyamoto will devote most of his time thinking of his next Wii Music type game or toy or whatever the nonsense is meant to be. If sales of Wii Music go through the roof I am not very confident that in the near future we would be getting a Pikmin, Zelda (built from ground up for Wii), F Zero. Even if we get such games soon I fear the game won't be as great as it should be cause Nintendo would have not devoted the time it should have to the game because it was too busy dreaming up with the next casual game 10 million seller.

 

Fatal Frame IV, Disaster Day of Crisis, Wario Land:Shake It, Animal Crossing are all coming out soon and they all 1st or second party. Now Pikmin is in development, i think this does guarantee significant amount of time invested in hardcore games.