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Redcoat222 said:
Yakuzaice said:
Redcoat222 said:
I have always objected to the mantra that there are some games better on PC than on consoles (which unfortunately has even appeared in this thread). It's simply about what you're used to playing with.

If you've mostly played FPSs on the PC then you're bound to prefer that. I've played them mostly on consoles and I find a mouse and keyboard cumbersome and unintuitive. Which isn't much of a surprise since they're not designed for gaming.

I've actually played RTSs more on the PC than on consoles and I would still maintain that there isn't any difference playing them on a console. It's an illusion.

However, despite the fact that I think console gaming is superior, the existence of PC gaming doesn't affect me at all, so why should I want it to die?

There is a pretty massive speed difference in FPS/RTS when comparing mouse/kb to gamepads.  Take UT3 on PS3 for example.  Even though the game is already slowed down (speed of the characters) compared to the PC version, people who use mice have a distinct advantage over those with the console controller.  For example a person playing with a mouse can turn around with a flick of the mouse, while the person with a gamepad will take ages in comparison.  That isn't even taking into account the higher accuracy and speed of aiming.

Same with RTS's, even one designed for consoles can't compare to the speed that hotkeys and a mouse offer PC players.

On the other side of the coin, some games control better with a gamepad.  If I bought DMC4 on PC, I would want to play it with my DS3, and not my m/kb.

I do wish I had been able to get that game (I didn't bother because I was temporarily unable to get my PS3 online). I'd have been able to finally test this out and see how I fared against people using the mouse and keyboard. I would expect to be able to beat roughly the same proportion that I can normally beat.

The point you make about the mouse being more accurate is interesting because it raises the contradiction in the arguments made by PC fanboys, for instance the poster above who claims PS3/360 are "dumbed down". If it's easier to play with a mouse then surely playing with analogue sticks is more hardcore.

I will concede that in RTS games the use of hotkeys on PC is better. However, they are rarely needed to complete a campaign so it's not a major difference.

 

How is using the best control method less hardcore?  Many console games implement aim assist.  For example if you are just aiming forward, and someone runs across your crosshair, it will move slightly to follow them.  Not to mention they are often just slower to make using joysticks more feasible.  Is using an awful computer that only gets 10 fps on a game more hardcore because it is harder to play?

As for RTS's, you said the differences were an illusion.  Just because it is possible to complete the campaign with a controller doesn't mean it is even on par with a kb/mouse.