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I hope with all my heart that the 360 completely destroys the PS3 this holiday so that I can come back and read your apologies for making your predictions while attacking someone on solid numbers. No one knows what the 200 dollar price tag will do, but we do know that the 360 is nearing saturation at it's current price. I think the 80 dollar drop may give it a jab in the arm, but then again it may not. I know that it's going to lure in second console purchases from many people like me who's family has taken over my system. I hope it brings in some Wii owners who want to move up to the HD system and perhaps it can pull in a bunch of PS2 owners. There are so many different factors, but one thing that doesn't matter... your faith... in a piece of hardware... it's pretty sad... brand loyalty is sad... the only thing that should matter to you as a gamer is the games... you go where the games you love go and if you're a big Halo fan that mean the 360 and if you can't wait for Killzone 2 then the PS3 is your system, but don't talk about Sony or Microsoft like those names matter, because that makes you a poser who says he's a gamer, but will only every really support one console. That's my rant... I suppose I shouldn't have gone off like that for my first post haha very sorry